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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: inkbrigade on March 01, 2012, 01:27:33 PM
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Ugh...
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I believe Zelko has a digi in NH.....coats (2) 23x 31s at a clip
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Well I sure like mine. We do two 23x31 screens at a time, and while we're coating we are also imaging screens on the I-jet. Stoning two birds with one kill. And if I'm here doing them at night (during busy season like now) I can figure one six pack to get through the night. We're doing about 150 screens a day right now.
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I found a nice used one. My wife says it doesn't "make us money". She wants a pad printer to print tAgs. The pad printer would.
My shoulders and back would disagree.
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Hey Dave do you have the ijet 1 or 2?
Also how do you de ink and reclaim? Dip tank? Auto washer?
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lot of crap around here doesn't make me money, but it makes my job easier, removes variables and SAVES money.
Your bigger exposure unit doesn't make you money either does it?
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Ugh...
We feel your pain. Between 30 and 60 screens a day so we average maybe 45. Thats reclaiming then coating the ones from the previous day. A never ending cycle. Once we get the next auto oh lord. Will need a full time screen guy for sure.
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lot of crap around here doesn't make me money, but it makes my job easier, removes variables and SAVES money.
Your bigger exposure unit doesn't make you money either does it?
Well removing variables and saving money and time is the same as making money to me. And making jobs easier by taking away that stress level helps a lot for everyone involved. It's amazing how much more we get done when everyone is happy around here!
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I found a nice used one. My wife says it doesn't "make us money".
Anything that saves time and keeps you fresh physically makes you money. Less time in the screen room means more time the press is PRINTING. More PRINTING means more MONEY. PERIOD.
Every single thing you do in the shop that is NOT printing product is COSTING you money. It will be compounded with every employee. Put efficiencies in place and you save money. Saved money is money made.
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Hey Dave do you have the ijet 1 or 2?
Also how do you de ink and reclaim? Dip tank? Auto washer?
We have an I-Jet, early version, so I guess One. Reclaim is done with a dip tank. I've never see an auto reclaim that does as good as I want.
Today we prep all the screens for tomorrow's work, and we're reclaiming screens from today and yesterday. Thant means about 450 screens moving around the shop every day. I can't imagine life without my I-Jet.
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lot of crap around here doesn't make me money, but it makes my job easier, removes variables and SAVES money.
Your bigger exposure unit doesn't make you money either does it?
Well removing variables and saving money and time is the same as making money to me. And making jobs easier by taking away that stress level helps a lot for everyone involved. It's amazing how much more we get done when everyone is happy around here!
A penny saved is a penny earned, according to Ben Franklin. And according to a business trainer I've spoken with, it's completely true. Not to mention the logic of it.
Steve
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I see them for for sale used quite a bit, which makes me skeptical. Though I guess a lot of people
let their Triloc collect dust too.
That said, when I was the screen coater, that was the one job in the shop that hurt physically to do.
Completely unnatural motions involved with that process.
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I see them for for sale used quite a bit, which makes me skeptical. Though I guess a lot of people
let their Triloc collect dust too.
That said, when I was the screen coater, that was the one job in the shop that hurt physically to do.
Completely unnatural motions involved with that process.
It's just so important to have it done right. Obviously no one I train will carry as much as I care.
If someone gets tired or careless the eom gets too thin and that freaks everything up.
I know an auto coater isn't faster but it's better that whoever I can hire to push the buttons on the machine.
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What is the price on one of those puppies?
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I see them for for sale used quite a bit, which makes me skeptical. Though I guess a lot of people
let their Triloc collect dust too.
That said, when I was the screen coater, that was the one job in the shop that hurt physically to do.
Completely unnatural motions involved with that process.
It's just so important to have it done right. Obviously no one I train will carry as much as I care.
If someone gets tired or careless the eom gets too thin and that freaks everything up.
I know an auto coater isn't faster but it's better that whoever I can hire to push the buttons on the machine.
Good point. You know with an auto coater every screen will be the same, day in and day out. I can tell you to the micron what every eom is. I know they will always be the same. Unless of course I hire an idiot that can't push a button right. I can sit here and drink a six pack as I coat, and every screen is going to be what I expect. (I'm not condoning drinking while you work though)
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The best thing about Dave is he counts time in 6 packs!
Auto coating = 1 sixpack
Imaging 150 screens with i-jet = 1 six pack
Rotflol!!!
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Looks like you better get busy! ;)
I reclaim then coat that many, sometimes more on a daily basis. An auto coater would sure be nice, preferably one that has front and back emulsion trays. The labor part is what I hate, and training someone new to coat can be a hassle.
It's the repeatability that's the beauty of the coater. If that means train to put emulsion here, screen here, adjust coats by this chart here and press this button then life just got easier for your production flow.
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Our problem was we had a "short timer". A kid that was about to quit. He coated a few racks of screens, but he did them to fast. Thus very little eom. We didn't realize it till screens were burned and causing trouble on press.
We had dozens and dozens of screens that were screwed.
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That's part of the beauty of an auto coater. It takes about two minutes to train someone, anyone, how to use it. Mine does have troughs on front and back. Slap two screens in the machine and set them against the stop blocks, lock them in and press start. Keep the troughs full (not too full) and adjust the start delay as needed. A chart on the machine tells you exactly what mesh gets what coating. A huge majority of my screens are coated the same. It's so easy Sam could do it.
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What is the price on one of those puppies?
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I seen a used on for about 10K. I think they are in the mid 20s to 30s new.