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screen printing => Screen Making => Topic started by: Prosperi-Tees on March 19, 2012, 05:18:00 PM
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My CCI guy just dropped off my new dip tank. Pretty good deal I think. Will hold 6 or 7 23x31s came with 3 gallons of their new dip n strip for $250. Has a drain spout, a bottom catch pan and a lid. I will report back the chemical performance whenever I get a chance to set this up.
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Damn that is a great price for that tank, especially one big enough for 6 full size screens. I might have to look into getting one of those bad boys. Thanks for posting Gerry.
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You got it, it was a show special that ended last month but they still gave it to me. Im sure they will still honor it.
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Screamin deal there, especially since they included the chem. Do these puppies hold 25x36 as well?
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I dont think so Zoo
http://ccidom.com/products.php?product=________EnviroLine%C2%AE___________--------DST%252d1-Dip%27N-Strip%E2%84%A2-Tank (http://ccidom.com/products.php?product=________EnviroLine%C2%AE___________--------DST%252d1-Dip%27N-Strip%E2%84%A2-Tank)
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Why are you guys interested in holding 6-7 screens in a dip tank? if it takes 2-3 minutes(heck maybe 4-5 for pure diazo emulsion) in the dip tank, why would there be a need for any more than 2-3?
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Why are you guys interested in holding 6-7 screens in a dip tank? if it takes 2-3 minutes(heck maybe 4-5 for pure diazo emulsion) in the dip tank, why would there be a need for any more than 2-3?
Great point. I only put about 4 in max at a time in our big blackline tank. I guess it doesn't hurt to have extra room and extra solution in there though. I'm more concerned with having tanks that can fit the biggest screen sizes possible so I don't have to buy new ones as we purchase larger screens down the line.
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My current easiway tank only holds 2 manual sized frames. Since I got the auto I had to get one that held them so this was a no brainer. I probably would only put 4 at a time in myself.
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But if you put only 3-4 in a tank that is made to 6-7 screens you will probably end up having to use more solution in the tank. Still a fantastic deal
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Our screens almost always spend more than a few minutes in the tank. My guy (that we are replacing this week) moves about as fast as a sloth. He's one of the slowest moving land mammals on earth right now and I thought about calling Guinness Book and getting them out here to check him out. Our's holds 5 23x31 screens and we always have it full it seems even though we don't need it to be. The longer the screens are in there, up to a point, the easier they are to clean. I haven't found the chemical to be too hard on the mesh if they are left in the tank for 15-30 minutes. We use Easiway Supra, great stuff.
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I accidentally left a couple screens in for a couple hours. Those were really easy to wash out! Lol.
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CCI inks any good? I used some of thier emulsion awhile back (forget which one) but it wouldnt reclaim worth a damn and left spots of locked in emulsion in the mesh.
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I know Sean (ebscreen) uses some CCI inks but I havent tried them.
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we only let the screens in the tank for 1 min.
when the chemical solution is new then add another minute as the solution get weaker
@ALAN 15 to 30 minutes that`s too much fire him
he`s sleeping in the darkroom ???
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Our screens almost always spend more than a few minutes in the tank. My guy (that we are replacing this week) moves about as fast as a sloth. He's one of the slowest moving land mammals on earth right now and I thought about calling Guinness Book and getting them out here to check him out. Our's holds 5 23x31 screens and we always have it full it seems even though we don't need it to be. The longer the screens are in there, up to a point, the easier they are to clean. I haven't found the chemical to be too hard on the mesh if they are left in the tank for 15-30 minutes. We use Easiway Supra, great stuff.
ALAN, would his leg drag if he hits a crack in the floor? man, i had my brother inlaw working and he IS the slowest human. your guy could be a close second..
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I like CCI Baja black.
Everytihng else is usable, but not the best.
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Got the tank set up today. I only used 2 of the 3 gallons they say to use and it worked great! Even with a little extra ink on the screen. I think the new dip n strip works much better than the easiway supra I replaced.
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Is dip`n`strip from their eco/green product line?
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It is in their enviroline. The sheet I got says No VOCs
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It is in their enviroline. The sheet I got says No VOCs
That's interesting. I was just encouraging one of our suppliers to look into CCI after hearing all the good reviews of their new discharge and it turns out they have avoided the company like the plague for years due to their toxic formulas- VOCs and other things being a primary concern. We've used Franmar for 6 years and practically nothing else so I don't have any experience myself. I wonder if CCI is turning a new leaf?
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Well they do have a regular 'toxic' line and the enviroline. Their product offering in chemicals is staggering!
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From what I heard their regular line doesn't need the " " around toxic. Not sure I can get behind a company with a rep like that.
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It is in their enviroline. The sheet I got says No VOCs
Well there are lots of products out there that contain no VOCs and do not make the claim to be environmentally friendly. I wondering if CCI have ever bothered to check what other real green products are out there and how they differ to their apparent green line of chemicals.
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I think some companies honestly make a back end effort at it and many just do whatever sells. This back end effort isn't necessarily proportional to their respective advertising efforts.
In any case I'm glad to see more options for safer chem's but would rather give our dollars to the ones who are sincerely vested in making better, safer products rather than the opportunists.
Across all industries many a company has recently made it so anyone in their right mind would be embarrassed to use the term 'green'.
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I personally would probably feel much more comfortable using Franmar products.
Shame, here in Japan no one in the print industry cares about green products.
But still good deal this CCI dip tank, I paid almost twice as much for one from Easiway.
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I just saw the CCI black dip tank yesterday. It is really nice. Very strong and is molded so it has no seams. I was worried that the tank would not hold my 23X31 screens with the MHM bushings on it so I checked and without chemicals in the tank they slide in fine. I figure with the chemicals in it they would slide in even easier. It is now on my list for the next few months.
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My guy (that we are replacing this week) moves about as fast as a sloth. He's one of the slowest moving land mammals on earth right now and I thought about calling Guinness Book and getting them out here to check him out.
lol
But still, I think that's nothing compared to one of my former printers. I came to shop one day and the guy working on Chameleon has printed more t-shirts than that fellow working on the Sportsman. He used to spend something like 20 seconds just to place the t-shirt on the pallet, because "he wasn't satisfied how it looks". Actually he was so slow that he takes hour and a half to watch 60 minutes.
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Hey is there any chance of a video on the dip tanks, i have no exp. with them and would like to see it at work, How often do you need to top up the tank? say if you were doing 25 23x31's a day.
Thanks
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New larger diptank available shortly big enough to take 25X36 with MHM bushings. 40 gallon capacity instead of 30
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New larger diptank available shortly big enough to take 25X36 with MHM bushings. 40 gallon capacity instead of 30
It should be available now.
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Nice, I'm about to trade our flimsy dip tank in for one of those.
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Drained down our dip tank last night to clean it out, nasty 3 month build up. Guess we were busier than I thought!!
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