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Title: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Scobey Peterman on May 11, 2011, 06:52:56 AM
I just read where I was banned from posting on Prestons site.

I have no clue as to why.

My last post was to ask for help with some artwork.

Was I wrong for asking for help??

I thought that was what these sites are for??
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on May 11, 2011, 07:27:51 AM
Preston is changing something with email addresses as ban triggers.
I use a so-called throw away email address. I've had the same Yahoo email for 7+ years. Hardley throw awy.
When a web presence or domain name of mine changes, I don't have to update my email with distributors, logins, etc., I just keep using my good 'ole yahoo email address.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Scobey Peterman on May 11, 2011, 07:53:27 AM
I will change my e-mail address and see what happens.

Thank you for the information.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Scobey Peterman on May 11, 2011, 07:56:40 AM
That was it......I'm back on the site.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: squeezee on May 11, 2011, 08:17:02 AM
Somebody (presumably Lord Voldemort) has been using multiple personalities (at a guess) and Preston, who has my sympathy, has banned any throw-away email accounts like gmail/yahoo/hotmail.
Personally, my gmail account is my long-term one and the ISP is only valid until I get a better deal.
It's like a war-zone over there.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Homer on May 11, 2011, 08:23:11 AM
yeah, wtf is that all about? That place has become useless. . .pisses me off to see such a nice place go all to hell over stupid crap. I'm friggen done, I am not changing my e-mail account for that bs. Poor Preston, all that work and it's now a big pile of steaming dog crap.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Frog on May 11, 2011, 08:26:11 AM
Jeez Scobey, I hate to think that that was the only reason you paid us a visit!  :o
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: T Shirt1 on May 11, 2011, 09:59:19 AM
Same here.  Got booted for using the gmail addy that we've had longer than our T Shirt1 address.  ROFLMAO!!  Oh well, I got to where I couldnt keep up with all the multiple personalities.  There was/is so much drama and mindless yapping that (IMO) the content suffered drastically.  I know I won't be missed and I am sorry to see it follow the path of screenprinters.net but I'd rather spend my time where there might be less activity and more content.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: jesterapparel on May 11, 2011, 10:02:17 AM
I just read where I was banned from posting on Prestons site.

I have no clue as to why.

My last post was to ask for help with some artwork.

Was I wrong for asking for help??

I thought that was what these sites are for??

Preston brought that on himself, I don't feel sorry for him anymore.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: shellyky on May 11, 2011, 10:23:21 AM
Sorry shellyky, you are banned from posting and sending personal messages on this forum.  

I'm not changing my email address to my work email--i dont need any spam going to that, thats the whole reason ive used hotmail for online BS since 1995. lol....guess ill just stay banned...
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Denis Kolar on May 11, 2011, 10:55:50 AM
Sorry shellyky, you are banned from posting and sending personal messages on this forum.  

I'm not changing my email address to my work email--i dont need any spam going to that, thats the whole reason ive used hotmail for online BS since 1995. lol....guess ill just stay banned...

You can open something like bs@graphicdisorder.com and forward to your Yahoo or Hotmail address. Ends up being the same to you.

I like the idea because if you are in this business, more than likely, you have your own site. Usually, hosting comes with unlimited addresses and you can open up a separate one for every Forum you are on.
This prevents people (somewhat) from using a bogus emails for forum use as we have seen some people with multiple aliases.

I know it is a pain, but I think I like this :)
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: squeegee on May 11, 2011, 10:55:58 AM
I won't change my email either, sorry, my professional email is off limits to forums, period.

I haven't bothered posting on SPOF lately anyway because anyone with something useful to say can't get a word in edgewise.

This site on the other hand is going great, I've been helped and participated in helping more in 2-3 weeks here than the last 6 months over there.

Thanks to all and to the admins here.  I think we all know why we are here!
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: GraphicDisorder on May 11, 2011, 11:03:02 AM
Sorry shellyky, you are banned from posting and sending personal messages on this forum.  

I'm not changing my email address to my work email--i dont need any spam going to that, thats the whole reason ive used hotmail for online BS since 1995. lol....guess ill just stay banned...

You can open something like bs@graphicdisorder.com and forward to your Yahoo or Hotmail address. Ends up being the same to you.

I like the idea because if you are in this business, more than likely, you have your own site. Usually, hosting comes with unlimited addresses and you can open up a separate one for every Forum you are on.
This prevents people (somewhat) from using a bogus emails for forum use as we have seen some people with multiple aliases.

I know it is a pain, but I think I like this :)

We can do that for sure, I have unlimited email accounts of course.  But I doubt she'd want me to set that up for her. 
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on May 11, 2011, 11:05:43 AM
For me the idea of a throw away email address is that I can keep the same email even if my domain or web presence changes. What a nightmare to remember more login crap.
If I change my domain and I would have to change email address with a gazillion distributors, etc.
My yahoo address never changes.
The easiest way for P to address the problem would have been just to simply delete the bogus user and their post. Didn't take a forensic examination to figure out which users and post were bait.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Scobey Peterman on May 11, 2011, 11:28:24 AM
Andy,

Someone suggested this site, so here I am.

Can you tell me how to ignore on this site?

I assume it has this feature.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Northland on May 11, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
yeah, wtf is that all about? That place has become useless. . .pisses me off to see such a nice place go all to hell over stupid squat. I'm friggen done, I am not changing my e-mail account for that bs. Poor Preston, all that work and it's now a big pile of steaming dog squat.
Ditto... I won't be updating my E-addy on SPOF.
I think Preston made a mistake... but, it's his Forum... so-be-it.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Homer on May 11, 2011, 12:26:17 PM
damn scoob. you really got it out for me don't you haha. . .go ahead, hit the ignore button.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on May 11, 2011, 12:28:29 PM
Such a waste. There must be more to the story as to why certain people are given such a prominent voice over there.
Maybe we shouldn't dwell on it anymore but it just begs for an answer as to why. Discriminating on the basis of "jerk factor" on a forum can be good business.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Homer on May 11, 2011, 12:31:07 PM
ya know, bakers -I gotta say this place has more intelligence and useful info than any other site I've seen.  There are some really brilliant minds and a ton of knowledge here. I hate to do it but I am removing my tab for spof. . .good bye old friend.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: ftembroidery on May 11, 2011, 12:46:17 PM
I'm sure we are all aware of various organizations/fraternaties, etc. that practice some degree of "membership control". 

I personally know of a couple such organizations that when someone is applying for membership, the members are given a white marble/ball and a black one.  They choose a white marble and place it in a container (that nobody can see into) if they accept the persons application, or a black marble if they don't accept the persons application. 

That is where the term "black-balled" comes from.  In some organizations it only takes ONE black marble to reject someone regardless of how many white marbles there are.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: yorkie on May 11, 2011, 01:07:04 PM
I'm sure we are all aware of various organizations/fraternaties, etc. that practice some degree of "membership control". 

I'm unaware of ANY with the word OPEN in their name.

One question i have, is if guests have really been banned from viewing the "open forum" without registration?

My other question is how cheaply did preston sell his soul to asdf?



Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Frog on May 11, 2011, 01:12:20 PM
Andy,

Someone suggested this site, so here I am.

Can you tell me how to ignore on this site?

I assume it has this feature.



The quick answer Don't look! (just kidding)

No automatic ignore feature available yet.
We are still  running on the bare bones software version until we make our name change within the next week or so.
We had hoped to do it a week ago, but ran into some hurdles.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Shanarchy on May 11, 2011, 01:19:28 PM
Just a friendly reminder to make sure this thread does not turn into talking about a person (or persons) who does not post here.  :)
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: GraphicDisorder on May 11, 2011, 01:20:57 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bSk6yN_RU3Q/SyGu_GR7_vI/AAAAAAAAEfc/f56ff1D_l0U/s400/village.jpg)

Let's see if anyone gets the movie reference?
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: yorkie on May 11, 2011, 01:28:27 PM
Just a friendly reminder to make sure this thread does not turn into talking about a person (or persons) who does not post here.  :)

They have my email address. :)
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Northland on May 11, 2011, 01:42:52 PM
I'm sure we are all aware of various organizations/fraternaties, etc. that practice some degree of "membership control". 

I'm unaware of ANY with the word OPEN in their name.

One question i have, is if guests have really been banned from viewing the "open forum" without registration?

My other question is how cheaply did preston sell his soul to asdfg?




Guests may view SPOF without submitting an E-address.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Evo on May 11, 2011, 01:44:36 PM
I am now self-banned from there. I actually had very high hopes for that place.

Sadness.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: jesterapparel on May 11, 2011, 01:58:32 PM
I am now self-banned from there. I actually had very high hopes for that place.

Sadness.

I made Preston delete my account about a year ago.  He let Barney on there then, I new where it was headed.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Denis Kolar on May 11, 2011, 01:59:03 PM
I am now self-banned from there. I actually had very high hopes for that place.

Sadness.

I know someone else who had a "self ban", this time I know it is a self and not forced ban :)
It is just sad that someone will be willing to loose most of the members instead of banning one (one person, few aliases).
But then again, most of the people complaining are set with the equipment and not looking into buying a new "and improved" blue colored press.

Sadness is a right word to use :(
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: squeezee on May 11, 2011, 05:48:07 PM
Actually Preston was trying to avoid anyone running two accounts with different names, he's trying to do the right thing.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: sportsshoppe on May 11, 2011, 05:54:59 PM
I not send my business address either, got a warning that I would not be able to post anything if I did'nt sooooooo I guess I will have to depend on you guys for all my needs... ;D
By the way my e-mail address that I am using here ( Yahoo) has been in use for years and I run Sandboxie and have not had any problems with virus since. Plus it comes on my Droid!!! :o
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Northland on May 11, 2011, 06:11:12 PM
Actually Preston was trying to avoid anyone running two accounts with different names, he's trying to do the right thing.
I do think Preston is doing "the right thing" in regards to weeding out ficticious posts and double identities. But, it comes at the cost of alieninating long-term members.
It goes without saying... this was rarely a problem in the past. Most members expressed their opinions and took their knocks in a civil fashion.

I believe SPOF will continue to grow and be a servicable forum.... but some past members won't be contributing much to it's future.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Evo on May 11, 2011, 07:09:56 PM
I think Preston is trying to do the right thing but his vision is commercially clouded. He'll deny it up and down, but I think many of the decisions and moderation on SPOF is determined by what is best for the brand he's selling. That's what I see anyway.


To put it bluntly, it should still have the acronym of SPOF, but the name should change to "Selling Printex on Forums".
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: squeezee on May 11, 2011, 07:22:23 PM
I find that ramming autos down your throat is counter-productive, I don't need an auto or know any of the people or companies involved but...I wouldn't buy from any of them.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on May 11, 2011, 07:40:40 PM
I think Preston is trying to do the right thing but his vision is commercially clouded. He'll deny it up and down, but I think many of the decisions and moderation on SPOF is determined by what is best for the brand he's selling. That's what I see anyway.
To put it bluntly, it should still have the acronym of SPOF, but the name should change to "Selling Printex on Forums".

Certain posters over there aren't doing his brand any favors.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: ZooCity on May 11, 2011, 08:58:09 PM
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he's trying to do the right thing.

Lot's of trying, but not much doing if you ask me.  It's a shame, he clearly worked hard on that forum but I don't think the writing could've been any more clearly written in stinky fat man poo all over the walls.

I'm not going to miss being called a "whiner" or a "sissy" or whatever it was for protesting against blatant disregard of forum rules and spamming though. 

I like the tenor of this forum a lot and would like to suggest that we all do our best to keep the content organized so as to avoid answering the same ?s over and over and empower us to really build up a knowledge base that goes from basic to downright esoteric.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Frog on May 11, 2011, 09:26:20 PM
Okay folks, you heard the man, post it in the right damn place, and don't ask the same old stuff over and over!

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Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Fresh Baked Printing on May 11, 2011, 09:33:08 PM
Okay folks, you heard the man, post it in the right damn place, and don't ask the same old stuff over and over!

One feature that I loved that was later made only available to premium members was the Bookmark feature. The bookmark would allow us to each build are knowledge base for ourselves and to share with others when the question would arise again.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: screenxpress on May 11, 2011, 11:14:37 PM
Damn!  And here I thought I was in the elite FEW that got banned.

Looks like almost everyone did.  Well I'm not changing my email for any board.

I guess I'll play in this sandbox for a while.  Anyone have a shovel?

Oh, Hi!
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Evo on May 11, 2011, 11:27:40 PM
I guess I'll play in this sandbox for a while.  Anyone have a shovel?

Just dig with your hands. Don't eat anything you find.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: ZooCity on May 12, 2011, 03:34:22 AM
Okay folks, you heard the man, post it in the right damn place, and don't ask the same old stuff over and over!

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That's right, you tell 'em Frog.
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Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: tpitman on May 12, 2011, 05:09:37 AM
Damn!  And here I thought I was in the elite FEW that got banned.

Looks like almost everyone did.  Well I'm not changing my email for any board.

I guess I'll play in this sandbox for a while.  Anyone have a shovel?

Oh, Hi!

Nice to see you here, Wayne.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: shellyky on May 12, 2011, 08:02:14 AM
interestingly i dont appear to be banned anymore...  ???
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Homer on May 12, 2011, 08:41:34 AM
interestingly i dont appear to be banned anymore...  ???

I just checked and I'm not banned either. . . too much drama though. I want to learn, not get in a pissing match about stupid ego crap. We put designs on shirts -big friggen deal. . nothing to brag about, we're not superheroes.

I'll keep popping in , maybe P will come around and fix the place up.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Shanarchy on May 12, 2011, 08:46:06 AM
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we're not superheroes.

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Speak for yourself, Homer.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: alan802 on May 12, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
interestingly i dont appear to be banned anymore...  ???

I just checked and I'm not banned either. . . too much drama though. I want to learn, not get in a pissing match about stupid ego crap. We put designs on shirts -big friggen deal. . nothing to brag about, we're not superheroes.

I'll keep popping in , maybe P will come around and fix the place up.

Wait a minute, I can climb a cactus naked, no problem.
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: ZooCity on May 12, 2011, 02:46:43 PM
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Wait a minute, I can climb a cactus naked, no problem.

Oh course you can, yer a Texan and yer all bat crap crazy and have nutsacks made of iron.   ;)
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: dlac on May 16, 2011, 10:04:58 PM
Crap I have never been banned from anywhere except kind of I guess.. I tried to change my email address over there on the old orginal .net.. well it said it would email me but no one seems to live there in management so never got the email and now can't log on... So keep this together Frog, running out of places to hang out... Kind of like owning a BSA..
dlac
Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: Frog on May 16, 2011, 10:42:04 PM
Well, I don't have one for your BSA, but this will have to do

.

Title: Re: Banned from SPOF
Post by: ftembroidery on May 16, 2011, 11:39:32 PM
They never did leak....they were just marking their territory