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screen printing => Newbie => Topic started by: Denis Kolar on March 27, 2012, 10:53:41 PM

Title: How to print help :)
Post by: Denis Kolar on March 27, 2012, 10:53:41 PM

Here is another one that is a bugging me a bit.

I'm thinking to print white twice but the second time to print over the crown area only. First layer of white to be an underbase for a yellow, green and red.
I know that you would need two screen for this on auto, but I can get away with one on manual. trying not to have thick print, one layer of white should take care of the underbase for color.

Any other suggestions??

Thanks

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on March 27, 2012, 11:07:50 PM

I think that would be the best way. I would discharge the whole thing though

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: Itsa Little CrOoked on March 27, 2012, 11:16:22 PM

I'm with Gerry.  I'd discharge it now days, no doubt, so long as it was a dischargeable shirt/dye.

But when I started I would have used 5 plates including 2 separate white plates.

Still would, if it had to be plastisol. 4 plates, if it didn't make the minimum number for 5, but I usually PFP white plastisol, and that would make a lot of ink for the colors.

Stan

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: Gilligan on March 27, 2012, 11:57:07 PM

You got 6 colors... just do it with 5 screens and be done with it.

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: Denis Kolar on March 28, 2012, 07:30:06 AM

No discharge, only plastisol.

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: broadway on March 28, 2012, 08:22:20 AM

This is the only way i would/could do it with plastisol inks. Use a choked UB white, flash, 3 colors on top, HLwhite. Total 5 screens. Depending on your screens, inks and design size you might want to flash before HL white. Pretty standard stuff.

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: mk162 on March 28, 2012, 09:49:04 AM

yup, on the auto though if it wasn't many shirts I would run the white around twice through a 230 and then put the top colors on.  manually, you would be fine as well if you just printed the top of the white on the last stroke, but make sure you don't transfer any white to the colors.

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: jason-23 on March 28, 2012, 10:22:48 AM

pfpf the white and print your colors, done. simple spot color crap man, your customer isnt goin to know the difference only you will. You post stuff like that on here your going to get the "right " way to print it. or you could print your white with a 110 and flash it and print your colors. http://youtu.be/CtLvG0X3_JU (http://youtu.be/CtLvG0X3_JU)

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: Denis Kolar on March 28, 2012, 11:00:32 AM

Thanks guys.
Jason, trying not to have too much ink on the shirts. It is on tank top and I want to use minimal number of strokes.
5 Screens for 40 piece order is a no-go (Custy will not pay), I might make an extra one if I do not like the look os the test print.

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: mk162 on March 28, 2012, 11:01:30 AM

i bet you can get good coverage through a 110, that isn't a thick fill so if it's not 100% opaque, it's very hard to tell.

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: jason-23 on March 28, 2012, 11:05:28 AM

Quote from: DKgrafix on March 28, 2012, 11:00:32 AM

Thanks guys.
Jason, trying not to have too much ink on the shirts. It is on tank top and I want to use minimal number of strokes.
5 Screens for 40 piece order is a no-go (Custy will not pay), I might make an extra one if I do not like the look os the test print.

well you cant have everything, is it you or the customer that doesnt want a lot of ink?

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: JBLUE on March 28, 2012, 11:36:05 AM

Quote from: DKgrafix on March 28, 2012, 11:00:32 AM

Thanks guys.

5 Screens for 40 piece order is a no-go (Custy will not pay)

You should have fixed the problem right here. If they will not pay then they will not get it. Its that simple. Especially for 40 pcs. Stand your ground Dennis. You are doing this to make money....... ;D

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: Denis Kolar on March 28, 2012, 11:55:04 AM

Quote from: JBLUE on March 28, 2012, 11:36:05 AM

Quote from: DKgrafix on March 28, 2012, 11:00:32 AM

Thanks guys.

5 Screens for 40 piece order is a no-go (Custy will not pay)

You should have fixed the problem right here. If they will not pay then they will not get it. Its that simple. Especially for 40 pcs. Stand your ground Dennis. You are doing this to make money....... ;D

They are OK with 4 color, but they do not have money for an extra color to print. Bands are struggling today :)
I like to do as much as I can to satisfy the customer, if I can do something that will make this print better and feel better, I will do it, as long as I do not do too much.
On the other hand, I'm still learning, so I'm willing to try a bit more on a paying order, than mess around with stuff just to mess with it :)

I have a little policy here, "The best customer is satisfied customer" (Also, it must be paying customer) :D

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: ebscreen on March 28, 2012, 12:15:51 PM

Double print your white on a 180 or so then top colors on 230-305.

Pure yellows in particular can benefit from a solid solid underbase.

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: RICK STEFANICK on March 28, 2012, 06:29:32 PM

underbase p/f/p- 160 mesh  sharp 75 dur. squeegie
yellow-230
green-230
red-230
or since you are manually printing just flash each color.

Title: Re: How to print help :)
Post by: ZooCity on March 28, 2012, 08:30:54 PM

From that mock I dont see an issue with a p/f/p white that's both ub for the colors and it's own spot for the crown.  The line art is outlined and will stay flexible and not be uncomfortable so long as you know how to print onto and not into the garment.  In fact, it would look kinda cool with a tall stack of ink.