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Heat Seal - Heat Press - Whatever you want to call it! => General Heat Seal => Topic started by: kingclothing on April 17, 2012, 05:23:05 PM
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Is it worth it? Only looking at a 2 color one as thats all thats in the budget but should be plenty to get up and going. Any opinions out there? Sorry if this is the wrong place don't know where else to post.
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I have no answers other than I will contract some work to you if you buy one. W have started marketing cheer gyms and events. huge market and they buy alot of bling apparel.
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buy a bedazzler instead :D
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thats funny
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hey if you are looking into it let me know what you find. right now we use stahls kit for ours. very cheap but a little time consuming in the beginning but once you get use to it not bad, have to do 2 color on separate sheets. but only done orders with less than 30 pieces, for more than that forget it.
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P has one over on the other board. I have never considered it due to ROI and enough steady biz. BTW do your homework on the stones the vary GREATLY in price due to composition, shape, size, and sometimes color. The polished aluminium ones are the cheapest while the Swarovsky stones used for Bebe apparel are the most expensive.
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real worried about roi so i'm going to do them the vinyl plotter way for now until demand is overwhelming.
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That's my plans... though the wife drools over a machine all the time.
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Try here. These are good guys. http://www.rhinestonesupplies.com/ (http://www.rhinestonesupplies.com/)
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those rhinestone machines are amazing to watch
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hey if you are looking into it let me know what you find. right now we use stahls kit for ours. very cheap but a little time consuming in the beginning but once you get use to it not bad, have to do 2 color on separate sheets. but only done orders with less than 30 pieces, for more than that forget it.
How do you charge for your custom rhinestone work you do?
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out the butt,
actually a job we just did was a screened word with rhinestones around it 20 pieces using stahls b6400 we charged $18.50 per shirt. this was a booster club and they sold them for $32 and already have another 30 piece order in here. no set up or screen charge since they were a booster. I think we spent like $120 with shipping for the full kit with stones and we have a plenty of stones and supplies for more jobs. the mask for each job can be saved for future use as well. so this repeat order we need nothing but the shirts, print and stones. and we have extra stones.
we used to have them done for use but the charge for them was outrageous, example the above job would have cost us $165
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What "kit" are you talking about?
Is it just me or does Stahl's website suck?
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do you have like a per square inch kind of pricing? i'm sure there are plenty of variables but i'm just wondering how to price out actual logos i can sell the sh*t out of peoples logos all blinged out for sure.
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Costs vary widely per design and also depending what type of stones you are using. The cheapest are the Koreans, then the machine cut which my wife uses and then swarvosky My wife is getting into cutting her own templates, fairly easy to do. Also sticky flock is great compared to the cheaper rubber stuff. I found a calculator that will tally up your costs for you, I'll try to find it and post the link.
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Is flock really that much better?
It's tons more expensive... or is it only that much better on patterns that you will constantly be using?
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Well its easier on blades, its a helluva lot easier to weed. The weeding part is what sold us on it, its pricier but a real time saver. For some reason or another the gray flock is better than the pink as well.
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we do not use a sq foot pricing but rather do it per job pricing. the materials to do it is very inexpensive, the time it takes to do the work is the cost. we were able to do 20 design using the stahls way in about 1 hour overall not to bad but there is a learning curve. it is always best to have way more stones than you think you need just helps to move quicker. the link below is where i got my info from.
http://www.stahls.com/rhinestone-supplies-accessories (http://www.stahls.com/rhinestone-supplies-accessories)
i bought everything they offered except for the sqeegee had those. i will say that the weeding of the stencil material very simple. you get the size holes to cut from the rhinsetone page which is below.
http://www.stahls.com/stahls/content/pdf/techsheets/HotFixRhinestones-Rhinestuds.pdf (http://www.stahls.com/stahls/content/pdf/techsheets/HotFixRhinestones-Rhinestuds.pdf)
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Nice... Yeah, I got most of those supplies.
That PDF should be helpful.
Thanks... now just need to find the time to play!
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Here it is , the rhinestone world sells this calculator but I am sure you can make one on your own
How To Price Your Rhinestone Shirts and Apparel Calculator (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTpkjTfXTw#ws)
Also the flock eliminates the backer board.
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Does anyone have a trick to quickly digitally "mock up" what a rhinestone version of an image would look like?
I just got a request for a job and they want a "proof" (I'm pretty sure they meant digital)... avoiding my first instinct to tell them to go f themselves ;) I'm wondering if there is a quick fast dirty trick to give an approximation. I'm honestly not sure it would translate well and I'm not about to spend much time on a job that I don't even have.
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We bought an Ioline at ISS AT. Cty. No time yet to implement. Slower than CAMS, but seemed more bulletproof and flexible. Less staff requirements for maintenance the better. Will post when we get rolling with it.
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beanie...how much was your machine?