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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: whitewater on April 30, 2012, 06:17:44 PM

Title: looking to save money...
Post by: whitewater on April 30, 2012, 06:17:44 PM
what do you guys and gals think about wood screens for the new auto coming...trying to save some $$$...
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: blue moon on April 30, 2012, 06:27:56 PM
I think that is a great idea, you just make sure they are used or at least mead out of used wood. That should make them even cheaper!  ;D

pierre
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: Gilligan on April 30, 2012, 06:37:34 PM
Seems like taking a step in the wrong direction.

If you treat your mesh right, newmans will save you money over the long haul... especially if you buy them used.  Cost nearly the same for the frames, then pop in some mesh... maybe you are 2x the cost of statics... but they will last many times over the statics.  Remeshing only saves you a few bucks a screen over new... so you are making that investment OVER and OVER.  For every Newman that last over at least one remeshing "cycle" of a static you are saving money on ever print at that point.

Not to mention you arguably (see other thread) have a better screen for printing with, especially on the auto.
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: whitewater on April 30, 2012, 06:42:40 PM
hey dudes....I was only kidding!
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: Shawn (EIP) on April 30, 2012, 08:17:59 PM
The interwebs is serious business  8)
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: sweetts on April 30, 2012, 08:25:39 PM
What about easyoff for emulsion remover any savings there :o

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Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: Homer on April 30, 2012, 09:25:06 PM
I think you should use hand tensioned wood screens AND convert to house paint. . screw this ink business, paint is where it's at my man. . .
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: Gilligan on April 30, 2012, 10:15:01 PM
Well, you did post it in a "serious" section.
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: jason-23 on April 30, 2012, 11:30:58 PM
he was serious until he got the first wise cracks then he back pedaled... ;D Ive got some pool screen you can have.
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: Doug B on May 01, 2012, 07:12:18 AM
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AND convert to house paint. . screw this ink business, paint is where it's at my man. . .

  Na... Speedball waterbased ink and Ulano handcut AquaSol water soluable emulsion. You will only get a couple of
prints per screen, but they will be amazing!

  I actually new someone who took a mailorder class in "silkscreen" printing and that is what they
gave her to use!  :o
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: Denis Kolar on May 01, 2012, 07:27:21 AM
How about not getting an auto, that should save you some money too :)
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: Sbrem on May 01, 2012, 08:17:01 AM
Don't forget to get a quality staple gun as well; the cheap ones break down fast and don't have replacement parts...

Steve
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: blue moon on May 01, 2012, 09:45:49 AM
Don't forget to get a quality staple gun as well; the cheap ones break down fast and don't have replacement parts...

Steve

that's a good one, totally forgot about it! We are still using the rope, but will be upgrading soon. . . I bet you the staples are cheaper than the rope!
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: Denis Kolar on May 01, 2012, 10:03:13 AM
Don't forget to get a quality staple gun as well; the cheap ones break down fast and don't have replacement parts...

Steve

that's a good one, totally forgot about it! We are still using the rope, but will be upgrading soon. . . I bet you the staples are cheaper than the rope!

Both of you guys, do not stop there, make sure you get stainless steel staples. That way you will prevent them from rusting from all the chemicals and water during the reclaim. Rust could damage the mesh and you could loose some tension because of it.

Jus' sayin'
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: ScreenFoo on May 01, 2012, 10:07:49 AM
You're crazy to think staples will be better Pierre--Rope and groove is the ultimate in retensionable technology.  How else can you get 9-11 N/cm consistently?  Not only that, you can pick where you want to put pockets of low tension.

Ultimate I tell you, ultimate.



Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: whitewater on May 01, 2012, 10:43:44 AM
thank you for all your help in this matter! ;)
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: Shawn (EIP) on May 01, 2012, 11:31:13 AM
Speedball that crappy emulsion and rope/bead and groove screen frames , mesh that comes in x's instead of numbers... yup thats how I got started. I shake my head when I walk pass that crap in th art store, stuff is expensive too. I started this business on 50 bucks. Wasn't until I found the old message board till I got serious.
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: sweetts on May 01, 2012, 11:53:23 AM
And a can of easyoff to clean the screens

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Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: JBLUE on May 01, 2012, 12:17:22 PM
Speedball that crappy emulsion and rope/bead and groove screen frames , mesh that comes in x's instead of numbers... yup thats how I got started. I shake my head when I walk pass that crap in th art store, stuff is expensive too. I started this business on 50 bucks. Wasn't until I found the old message board till I got serious.

I just burned one of these screens for somebody this morning. Easiest 50 bucks I have made in a while. That did include applying the film.
Title: Re: looking to save money...
Post by: jesterapparel on May 01, 2012, 12:57:46 PM
I heard chicken wire is cheaper than mesh.  Might lose some detail though, :o