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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: tonypep on May 04, 2012, 02:32:56 PM

Title: Friday Fun
Post by: tonypep on May 04, 2012, 02:32:56 PM
Another before and after using........one screen. Anyone remember the name of the technique? No fair Andy you can't play.
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: bimmridder on May 04, 2012, 02:40:39 PM
We called them fountain prints
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on May 04, 2012, 02:41:25 PM
Brush stroke
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: tonypep on May 04, 2012, 02:52:25 PM
Fountain or split fountain
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Doug B on May 04, 2012, 03:16:49 PM

  I have ONE customer that still uses it!   :)
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: inkman996 on May 04, 2012, 03:20:12 PM
We do that for one customer as well, its fun but wastes some ink but they pay.
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: mk162 on May 04, 2012, 03:26:34 PM
I did a job this would have worked great for, except it was turned sideways.  Hard to print a fountain when the colors run horizontal rather than vertical.

Looked almost as good as a fountain though.
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Sbrem on May 04, 2012, 03:36:49 PM
we called them blends, but then I read about split fountain in my "Pocket Pal"... and for you younger guys, it's not what you think ;D

Steve
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Gilligan on May 04, 2012, 05:03:48 PM
I did a job this would have worked great for, except it was turned sideways.  Hard to print a fountain when the colors run horizontal rather than vertical.

Looked almost as good as a fountain though.

They have a press or jig that lets you turn the platen sideways so you can print the shirt sideways.
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Frog on May 04, 2012, 05:19:33 PM
I did a job this would have worked great for, except it was turned sideways.  Hard to print a fountain when the colors run horizontal rather than vertical.

Looked almost as good as a fountain though.

They have a press or jig that lets you turn the platen sideways so you can print the shirt sideways.

Or, on a manual, you can pull the squeegee sideways (easier than pushing because you can steady the screen and station against yourself.)
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: ebscreen on May 04, 2012, 07:47:30 PM
The real question is, how many prints before it turns to brown mud?
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Frog on May 04, 2012, 07:58:14 PM
That depends on how many colors you start with (the narrower the color bands, the quicker the mud), and only after a little practice can you estimate that in your pricing.

That gets mixed into your "custom black"

Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Chadwick on May 04, 2012, 10:33:46 PM
The real question is, how many prints before it turns to brown mud?

My first reaction to 'what do you call this method?'
was 'tempting mud'.
Heh.
Good call.
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: T Shirt1 on May 07, 2012, 11:55:55 AM
We've been doing a red, ylo, grn blend on black over a grey u/b for one of our custys. We've found that if you keep the middle color full it tends to lessen the the creep.
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: mjrprint on May 07, 2012, 01:42:23 PM
So is this just 3 colors in one screen and print/flash/print?
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Frog on May 07, 2012, 01:51:38 PM
Print/flash/print would halve the number of clean prints one would get before needing to clean the screen.
Tony's appears to be discharge.
Mine, have mostly been on white shirts, and if on dark, would print over a flashed underbase.
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Sbrem on May 07, 2012, 02:35:31 PM
I'm pretty sure Tony does all discharge. When I first started printing, we had a Vastex press that had you run the squeegee from left to right, or vice versa, it was a tiny "one man squeegee", with bearing running on the back of the screen holder. We had a customer that used a horizontal blend a couple of times a month. Wilfex had this reducer that was actually quite pasty, and clear, that we could mix into the inks, and we could get a few dozen shirts out before we had to clean up the mud. The so called reducer made the inks very short bodied...
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: tonypep on May 07, 2012, 02:38:30 PM
Yes this is discharge 3 colors one screen 230 mesh two hits. We use mustard squirt bottles to introduce fresh ink to the screen. With practise you can pretty good at it without making mud.
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Chadwick on May 10, 2012, 11:01:32 PM
Did anyone mention the name of the technique?
This is old school tom-foolery, although..discharge?
hehe.
Giver.
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Gilligan on May 11, 2012, 11:38:57 AM
Split Fountain
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: tonypep on May 11, 2012, 12:15:51 PM
You can see early examples of this on vintage venue posters. We did them out of necessity when an 8 color press was considered an extreme luxury.
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: MrBreeze on May 11, 2012, 05:47:21 PM
We still do the split fountain thing from time to time.  We use three colors in the split and charge it as a two color.  As said before keep the middle color full to reduce the muddy effect.  We only do small runs on the manual presses.  If the job is large enough for the auto we use half tones to create the blend.
Title: Re: Friday Fun
Post by: Inkworks on May 13, 2012, 01:46:19 AM
I've always heard it called "Graphic Blend" With practice and judicial additions of ink here and there you can hold it through big run on a manual press, I haven't tried it on an auto.