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Title: WHAT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: jason-23 on May 21, 2012, 09:30:06 PM
http://youtu.be/cJEUYpHjrQM (http://youtu.be/cJEUYpHjrQM)
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Post by: Mr Tees!! on May 21, 2012, 11:11:49 PM
...wow, whatta racket! At that rate, he stands to make upward of nickels an hour! ;D
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Post by: stitches4815 on May 21, 2012, 11:46:22 PM
Matt, aka Balloonguy has a much better setup than this guy does.  This cheap old bastard should pop for an air compressor, it would make things go a little faster.  I know, it is probably a third world country that doesn't have any electricity to run the compressor.
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Post by: balloonguy on May 22, 2012, 02:09:13 AM
Yeah! Mine is way cooler.
This vid is poor quality but you get the idea.
http://www.balloonprinting.com/video.htm (http://www.balloonprinting.com/video.htm)
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Post by: sportsshoppe on May 22, 2012, 09:52:27 AM
we do what we can to make a living. I am impressed at his detail that he holds.
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Post by: royster13 on May 22, 2012, 10:16:35 AM
Nickels per hour????

I sell printed 1,000 balloons for 280.00.....Without looking very hard I can buy blank balloons for 6 or 7 cents.....But say 8 cents each with shipping...Looks like he can print 2 per minute....So 120 per hour....So probably 8 hours to print 1,000..Another couple hours to set-up and clean up....15.00 for materials?....I think that leaves him with 15.00+ an hour....I bet some printers on here have a tough time making that at times...
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Post by: Gilligan on May 22, 2012, 10:27:14 AM
Granted, he could probably double that with a small compressor.
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Post by: Denis Kolar on May 22, 2012, 10:51:32 AM
Nickels per hour????

I sell printed 1,000 balloons for 280.00.....Without looking very hard I can buy blank balloons for 6 or 7 cents.....But say 8 cents each with shipping...Looks like he can print 2 per minute....So 120 per hour....So probably 8 hours to print 1,000..Another couple hours to set-up and clean up....15.00 for materials?....I think that leaves him with 15.00+ an hour....I bet some printers on here have a tough time making that at times...

Blank balloons in Mexico are cheaper, so he'll even have the better margin :)
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Post by: Gilligan on May 22, 2012, 11:04:18 AM
As is his cost of living, so base that $15 bucks on that sliding scale and he's doing ok.

Then again, he might not be selling them for the same price due to same factors.
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Post by: Shawn (EIP) on May 22, 2012, 11:20:19 AM
I think it's cool for down times, small runs or for ones own family without a large investment.  It's almost like saying manual printers are stupid for not buying an auto. Theres always quicker and better ways to do things if you have the money to invest.
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Post by: 3Deep on May 22, 2012, 11:28:27 AM
I,m not going to knock the cat, hell when I first started printing I dried my shirts in our kitchen oven.  You would be surprise at what some people turn out with there odd homemake equipment...heck some of them do better printing manually than some us can on our auto...I might be speaking for myself here LOL.

Darryl
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Post by: Shawn (EIP) on May 22, 2012, 12:04:51 PM
I,m not going to knock the cat, hell when I first started printing I dried my shirts in our kitchen oven.  You would be surprise at what some people turn out with there odd homemake equipment...heck some of them do better printing manually than some us can on our auto...I might be speaking for myself here LOL.

Darryl

Not to brag but my manual printing far exceeds the work I've seen come out of some local shops with autos. I think this has a lot to do with the the shops not knowing how to or care enough to run and set up their equipment properly but mostly because us manual printers are able to pay more attention to detail.
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Post by: Gilligan on May 22, 2012, 12:23:18 PM
I'm certain if that same care went into auto printing you would get just as good and probably better (read: more consistent) prints.
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Post by: Mr Tees!! on May 22, 2012, 12:25:04 PM
...what has two thumbs and looks like the a$$hole in the room? THIS GUY RIGHT HERE!! :-[

...I didnt really mean the comment to be as snarky as it came off, sorry. I guess my point was that likely none of us here could even imagine working at a pace like this, what with real overhead, employees etc.  Especially on such a low-cost item like this. Not to mention, he looks like hes gonna run out of clothesline pretty quick and hafta spend time taking them down and packing them away.

...And yes, actually, the main thing I DID notice was how detailed that print is. I didnt see any halftone dots on there at all, did you?
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Post by: Shawn (EIP) on May 22, 2012, 12:47:38 PM
...what has two thumbs and looks like the a$$hole in the room? THIS GUY RIGHT HERE!! :-[

...I didnt really mean the comment to be as snarky as it came off, sorry. I guess my point was that likely none of us here could even imagine working at a pace like this, what with real overhead, employees etc.  Especially on such a low-cost item like this. Not to mention, he looks like hes gonna run out of clothesline pretty quick and hafta spend time taking them down and packing them away.

...And yes, actually, the main thing I DID notice was how detailed that print is. I didnt see any halftone dots on there at all, did you?

You shouldnt be able to see 1/2 tone dots in a photo or film from a short distance.
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Post by: balloonguy on May 22, 2012, 01:07:05 PM
I had a manual balloon press- Used the heck out of it when we had 4 major hurricanes in 14 months. I can say for sure, beyond the shadow of a doubt, the quality is not nearly as good as even the cheap autos. It is very important to have the same volume of air in each balloon printed. If the balloons are different sizes when printing the print will show in different places when you inflate them all the way. Also print speed and consistant pressure is critical. In many ways it is easier than shirt. In many ways it is harder.
We do get much better detail on balloons than shirts. I can print at an 85 line screen for balloons. At the fine of a dot some of the ink is lost between the weave of a shirt.
I'm just sayin'
Matt
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Post by: Ripcord on May 22, 2012, 03:22:46 PM
I dunno, I kind liked that old guy...Looks like he's makin' a few bucks...But why does the video need to be eight minutes long? I got the gist of it within 30 seconds...
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Post by: Gabe on May 22, 2012, 03:58:45 PM
yo@ripcord
you should say a few pesos
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Post by: Sbrem on May 23, 2012, 11:51:31 AM
I'm pretty sure I'd find something else to do, but God bless him. Anybody working for themselves is A-OK in my book.

Steve
Title: WHAT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: balloonguy on May 23, 2012, 10:35:10 PM
I'm pretty sure I'd find something else to do, but God bless him. Anybody working for themselves is A-OK in my book.

Steve
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