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General => General Discussion and ??? => Topic started by: sportsshoppe on May 25, 2012, 01:10:24 PM
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Miss Spelled word needing some help in covering the ''t'' and replacing with ''r''. The customer is ok with something going over it ie flag sword or something. this is for 650 shirts what a mistake!!! any ideas on a fix... its just a 1 color design.(http://)
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is it screen printed? What color ink and what color shirts?
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4 different color shirts and yes screen printed 1 stroke gold... I tried to blow out the top of the t with spot gun but it spreads too bad even with a vac pulling through. I think I am going to throw up :(
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I hate to say it but the cost of replacing might prove better than the massive amount of time to alter. Lining up a screen to each and every individual shirt sucks and will cost you plenty just in oven and labor time.
But if you have a heat press something could be done with a lot less frustration.
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Inkman it will be all me.... there goes the weekend.. the customer is super nice and he had suggested a flag but don't know. thanks for looking
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since you can't take out just the top of the T, can you blow out the whole letter? And than add an r where the T was.
I think the heat pressing an r in place is a good idea, but if you have to print it, go to Harbor Freight and buy some lasers so you can line it up.
How big is the print? Bigger it is easier it gets.
Another option is to hand hold the screen and line it up. Some sort of clear or easy to see through emulsion helps.
pierre
p.s. it is never as bad as it seems! There are always options.
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That really sucks.. Here is an option if you’re on an auto get some lasers and set up like 3 or 4 of them on the original printed art. The white will cover the original printing if not aligned perfectly. It will take time but you can do it.
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Hey P I tried to blow it out but it discolors the shirt around the other letters.... I will post the whole design.(http://)
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That letter should blow out fine, I wonder what is going on with that. My guy could fix those in about 6-8 hours, he's a freaking genius when it comes to stuff like that. He would blow the one letter out then burn another screen with the image containing the proper letter, put clear tape over the entire image except the "r" then put each shirt on the pallet, line it up over the print by hand using the rest of the design to line it up and swipe the "r" in the right location and you'd never know it was a mistake. It would take him far longer to blow them out than to print, but 650 shirts is a big hit so you gotta do what ya gotta do. I think with the right lasers you might could do that on the auto, especially since it's the last letter.
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alan I thought the same thing about blowing out the letter but for some reason it is blowing the ink over the other letters. I have fixed many of my stupid mistakes and thought this would take maybe 3-4 hours to blow them out but I am not pleased with the results. I have attached a waving flag to the top of the letter and have it flowing back towards the other letters and it does not look bad but the dawg gone hook at the bottom is giving me fits.... I am really upset so I know I am not thinking straight but I will fix my mistake one way or another.
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here is what I would do,
1. blow out the whole letter.
2. clean out your old screen really well.
3. tape out from the INK SIDE everything BUT the R..with CLEAR tape
4. now pull your shirt on and move it around with the off contact set so the screen doesn't touch the shirt and line up the old print through the clear tape.
5. print
the clear tape will keep the image open without the need to wipe it after every shirt
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My problem is the One Stroke gold is not blowing out well I even got some acetone to try and same thing..... If it blowed out well I would be ok
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are you using an eraser shield? That will help you make sure you don't get too much on the other letters.
A compete overprint might be in order.
I have often wondered if there would be a way to soak an entire design and have it come off easily....that would be really nice.
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yes that would be nice I wish I could back up time also....then I would not be in this situation
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alan I thought the same thing about blowing out the letter but for some reason it is blowing the ink over the other letters. I have fixed many of my stupid mistakes and thought this would take maybe 3-4 hours to blow them out but I am not pleased with the results. I have attached a waving flag to the top of the letter and have it flowing back towards the other letters and it does not look bad but the dawg gone hook at the bottom is giving me fits.... I am really upset so I know I am not thinking straight but I will fix my mistake one way or another.
Make a template / fixture up, sort of like an embroidery hoop just large enough to cover the one letter. The rest of the shirt will be protected, and just blow out the one letter.
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My problem is the One Stroke gold is not blowing out well I even got some acetone to try and same thing..... If it blowed out well I would be ok
There are a lot of inks that do not blow out well. Yellow is one of them for me also. I really think the only way to salvage the shirts is to over print the letter. Is this a left chest print? Or is a full back? I have seen people over print like in the example that I posted above. If it’s a left chest you could do a full over print circle then print the design on top of the circle. I personally would not want to blow out 650 shirts. I would try an over print.
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Im late to the party here...
but I stretch the area to be blown out over a plastic cup so just the letter is over the opening and it will work...I did 25 mesh baseball jerseys this way...
spelled 'Defreestville' wrong, i messed up the s and the t...and I reprinted the right letters....dude it will work, when you get in the rythm of putting the shirt on and sort of where to place it it gets faster...just use one of the techniques someone mentioned from above...
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There is another potential problem with major "blowouts". The liquid that wicks into the surrounding print area can affect the plastisizers in that ink, rendering them more brittle and prone to cracking.
So the time bowing out, health risk(minimized in your case with the vacuum), cost of actual fluid, time lining up and re-printing could all be for nothing if the final product is not up to snuff.
I'd suggest blowing a few out, checking the stretchability of the surrounding area, washing one, checking again, before proceeding with a "remove and re-print fix.
Replacing 650 shirts is not a pleasant thing, but could actually be the cheapest solution.
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If your willing to do a two color repair then you can create a large arced banner that easily covers the whole text print that in the same GY then print your text on top in another color. Even if you miss a little and it hits your swords it will not look bad.
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My problem is the One Stroke gold is not blowing out well I even got some acetone to try and same thing..... If it blowed out well I would be ok
There are a lot of inks that do not blow out well. Yellow is one of them for me also. I really think the only way to salvage the shirts is to over print the letter. Is this a left chest print? Or is a full back? I have seen people over print like in the example that I posted above. If it’s a left chest you could do a full over print circle then print the design on top of the circle. I personally would not want to blow out 650 shirts. I would try an over print.
It is a full back so I have the play and the letters are rough so if it is off just a little not a biggy. I blowed a few of the "t" hooks at the bottom and it done pretty good but I still hate to blow out all the shirts and really hate to replace them. Still thinking of something I could attach to hide the t and print anothe r. I don't know my mind is going a hundred miles an hour and I know each of you have had something like this happen to you so I know I am preaching to the choir.
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yup. been there, done that.
back in the late 80's we had a bad one that needed a full over print. I seriously do not know how thick that ink was, but it was bad...really bad. Customer liked them though and they stayed a customer until 2006 when the manager left and the new contact had his own buddy he liked to use.
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My problem is the One Stroke gold is not blowing out well I even got some acetone to try and same thing..... If it blowed out well I would be ok
There are a lot of inks that do not blow out well. Yellow is one of them for me also. I really think the only way to salvage the shirts is to over print the letter. Is this a left chest print? Or is a full back? I have seen people over print like in the example that I posted above. If it’s a left chest you could do a full over print circle then print the design on top of the circle. I personally would not want to blow out 650 shirts. I would try an over print.
It is a full back so I have the play and the letters are rough so if it is off just a little not a biggy. I blowed a few of the "t" hooks at the bottom and it done pretty good but I still hate to blow out all the shirts and really hate to replace them. Still thinking of something I could attach to hide the t and print anothe r. I don't know my mind is going a hundred miles an hour and I know each of you have had something like this happen to you so I know I am preaching to the choir.
Its less stressful to just replace them and chalk it up to a learning experience on proofing the design upon the first strike off. There is a pretty good chance that your repair is going to look like sh!t and have 650 examples of that floating around in the world. That can cost you a lot more in the long run then replacing the shirts.
Like Frog stated you are going to get spot fluid soaking into the other surrounding letter and compromise the integrity of the ink. If that happens now not only did you waste the time doing a bandaid but now you have to reprint the order again on top of that because the surrounding ink came off.
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If you replace them you also will end up with a huge amount of test shirts to print on and an immense amount of rags, don't know about you but in our shop those two things are commodities.
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I don't need that many test shirts lol..... with my vac system no fluid is getting to the other part of the design so that will not be an issue and 15$ of fluid is cheaper than 650 shirts and I guess my labor is free :( that comes with being the owner.
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15$ of fluid is cheaper than 650 shirts
True. But you seem to be putting a lot of time and effort into something that in all likely hood is going to have a substandard result.
Personally, I would overprint the whole thing, or bite the bullet and reprint, with a strong inclination toward the reprint. Overprinting has the benefit of being cost effective, but it is going to make one thick print.
Sometimes mistakes are costly.
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I don't need that many test shirts lol..... with my vac system no fluid is getting to the other part of the design so that will not be an issue and 15$ of fluid is cheaper than 650 shirts and I guess my labor is free :( that comes with being the owner.
Your time is money. As the owner you are the most valuable therefore the most expensive out of all the employees. Labor is never free no matter what position you have in the company.
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Scott, dam hate to here that but have you tried to blow out the letter with the vac off and then turn the vac on. We do this because with the vac on it sucks the fluid away to fast before it can break up the ink and it leaves a bad stain. Hey you can try it that way and see...hit it with the blow out gun then turn on your vac.
Darryl
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I don't need that many test shirts lol..... with my vac system no fluid is getting to the other part of the design so that will not be an issue and 15$ of fluid is cheaper than 650 shirts and I guess my labor is free :( that comes with being the owner.
Your time is money. As the owner you are the most valuable therefore the most expensive out of all the employees. Labor is never free no matter what position you have in the company.
No labor is not free but if the company loses then I lose so I know it is not free but it is what it is. Sent this to my customer (long time customer) and he is good with it. I have already printed 120 this afternoon since I have been off the computer so I think I will make it. Thks so much for those of you who had an idea on helping me on this doom and gloom project. I know it is not the best art work but if he is happy then I am and I don't think the kids will ever know the difference. It was a strange shirt anyway full back only ?