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Title: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Dottonedan on June 14, 2012, 01:54:59 PM
I found this thing running around my kitchen about 3am the other day. We've seen more and more of them lately. Must of had a mother hatch a nest of them a while ago. Most all were found outside, but 1 in the garage and this one in the house. Sheesh.


I just get amazed at the size of these things. They seem to get bigger and bigger.



D


Spider.MOV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgKfkctk4Pg#)
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: inkman996 on June 14, 2012, 02:03:48 PM
I believe thats a huntsman not sure. Huntsman have the largest leg span species in the world. That one in your bottle is a baby compared to the banana or the giant huntsman
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Denis Kolar on June 14, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
You are lucky, if is not bigger and it does not have a beard :)  Did he say anything bad about M&R????  :>?
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Frog on June 14, 2012, 02:37:02 PM
We have spider safe capture and relocation kits (cup and card) in strategic places around the house for our very frequent visitors.
What never ceases to amaze me is how quickly they can spin a web.
Left a car window open for a day and returned to a web from the steering wheel to the door!
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: sportsshoppe on June 14, 2012, 02:38:39 PM
we have large lizards and Dirt Dobbers that take care of most spiders.....
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: screenprintguy on June 14, 2012, 03:45:16 PM
ewwwwwwww  yeah, hate those things Dan, we live right next to an orange grove and we get ones that look just like those called wolf spiders, big hairy suckers. Things freak me out man!!!
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: inkman996 on June 14, 2012, 04:00:09 PM
I guess i am weird I actually like spiders. To me they are natures art. In my place I leave them alone if they are up in the corners of the ceilings or where ever they are good bug control. Wolf spiders are common around here I love picking them up carefully and freaking people out when i put my hand out ;D Contrary to belief wolf spider bites are very mild in toxicity usually unnoticeable or a light rash.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: ZooCity on June 14, 2012, 06:01:40 PM
Those look a little like the Hobo spiders around here which can get pretty big and are super aggro.  Like, out of hand agressive and similar in toxicity to the Brown Recluse common back East where I'm originally from, which is fairly toxic, causes significant necrosis depending on the bite. 

I'm like Inkman and have no issue with spiders (it's true they're all toxic but most are just barely toxic to humans) except when they go out of their way to bite people's faces and what not which these hobo's will totally do, one actually pounced on me from above when I was doing laundry last week, it's ridiculous.   They're the mad-dog sickos of the arachnid tribe.  I liken one showing up in a room to a human kicking the door in, jacked up on pcp, knives in both hands, foaming at the mouth, screaming and jumping around....don't feel bad at all about stomping them, but I let them have their realm in the basement so long as they stay down there.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: balloonguy on June 14, 2012, 06:11:21 PM
I would burn the house down and move!
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Sbrem on June 14, 2012, 06:13:47 PM
I guess i am weird I actually like spiders. To me they are natures art. In my place I leave them alone if they are up in the corners of the ceilings or where ever they are good bug control. Wolf spiders are common around here I love picking them up carefully and freaking people out when i put my hand out ;D Contrary to belief wolf spider bites are very mild in toxicity usually unnoticeable or a light rash.

I'm right with you Mike, I find them totally fascinating, not that I want one crawling on my face though...

Steve
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: inkman996 on June 14, 2012, 06:39:48 PM
Another stupid myth is that daddy long legs are the most poisonous spider in the world but uNable to break human skin! First off they are not even spiders technically and no they do not contain venom glands nor fangs.

Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: jesterapparel on June 15, 2012, 11:45:01 AM
My wife says I'm the worst spider killer in the world. :o
Title: Re: spider scleaning
Post by: Dottonedan on June 15, 2012, 11:46:01 AM

Cleaning himself. (after just being caught).  I wonder what makes them think to do this after being caught? Shows that they just don't care to worry too much.

spider cleaning.MOV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbWmZbtkM5c#)
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Command-Z on June 15, 2012, 11:54:58 AM
Cool new pet, Dan. I'm fascinated with nature until its in my house. Then I squish it.

Growing up in AZ, black widows in the summer were a common thing, in the garage, around the pool, etc. but lately I haven't seen any at all. I think it's because the gecko population is spreading... now all we have are harmless little "cellar spiders" everywhere, which is OK by me.

Found a scorpion in the bathtub recently in Bisbee. Again, fascinating and cool little critter, but unfortunately, he met the business end of my shoe.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Dottonedan on June 15, 2012, 12:08:22 PM
I have a relative that was a mechanic in Charlotte NC. He often went out to the junk yards to get parts off old cars to rebuild antique cars. He was bitten by a black widow not just once, but two different times.


The one arm first, then the 2nd arm the 2nd time. He's now on compensation as he had muscle and nerve damage and can't grip anything in either hand.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on June 15, 2012, 12:31:51 PM
He's probably hungry!
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: rmonks on June 15, 2012, 12:33:10 PM
For the past 10 years or so i have had problems with brown recluse also known as fiddle back spiders in my shop. I sprayed and did about everything to try and get rid of them, i even ask a pest control company about how to kill them' he said it is almost impossible as a spiders body does not touch the surface that has been poisened. He said you have to get rid of their food source to get rid of them. But over the last year i quit spraying and noticed a reduction in the brown recluse population, but at the same time noticed a new spider and best i can tell it is a wolf spider. I beleive the wolf spider is hunting and eating the brown recluse.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Chadwick on June 16, 2012, 05:28:09 PM
"Cleaning himself. (after just being caught).  I wonder what makes them think to do this after being caught? Shows that they just don't care to worry too much."

I disagree. He ( she? ) likely feels violated and wants to feel clean again. Pick up a cat who doesn't like you and it will clean itself after you put it down.
Or, then again, since it's perception of it's surroundings is limited, it just figured it was a good time for maintenance. Who knows?

I'll admit that spiders do creep me out a bit, mostly because I know how they digest their food,
but I keep em around anyways, cause they eat ALOT of annoying insects.

Around here we've got these little red ones...like, really frickin small.
They appear in the spring, around runoff and such, and you get bit by one of those, you've got a heck of a welt. ( I know )

Other than that, most spiders around here won't mess with you, unless you mess with them.
Like those black ones..wolf spiders? fast as hell and they don't make webs. Take a swing at one and miss, and they'll come at you.
Tough arachnid. Not afraid of you in the least. I'd be a little put off taking on something the size of an aircraft carrier in relation to me.

We're lucky we're bigger than they are, or we'd be extinct.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Chadwick on June 16, 2012, 05:50:27 PM
Btw Dan..totally off topic,
but,
I see you're messing with videos now.
So...we gonna see some sep video?
 ;)
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Shawn (EIP) on June 16, 2012, 07:04:48 PM
I find silver fish in my shop sometimes, alien looking mofos and super fast freakiny looking worse than spiders.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Dottonedan on June 16, 2012, 07:11:16 PM
Btw Dan..totally off topic,
but,
I see you're messing with videos now.
So...we gonna see some sep video?
 ;)


I'm sure one day I'll pop one out. I tried one as a test and learned how tough people are about how you say things, not worked right, not fast enough, not slow enough. I'm not into spending hours and hours making everyone comfy. Also, I get tired of paying for Vid programs. Bought one and it only works on macs....but can't get the sound to work right when saved for viewing. It's notorious for sound issues. So, got another for the PC. Lost my Mother Board a few months back and lost my Vid program on that. Gotta see if I can haggle with them and get the license and download again.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Chadwick on June 16, 2012, 07:21:12 PM
Sorry about the loss of the licenses.
Plenty of open source software out there you can use though.
Just gotta get out of that mac headspace, you have a pc now.

And, as an artist, I would have thought you'd know by now to not give a F*** what the critics have to say.
 ;)
Just sayin.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Itsa Little CrOoked on July 08, 2012, 12:35:31 AM
I don't know how I missed this thread.

I can't see Mr. Spidey's back in the video, but it looks a lot like a Brown Recluse....and if so, get rid of them. They are damnable creatures and WILL mess you up if you are unlucky enough to be bitten. I've been bitten twice, and my wife once. Neither of us displayed the necrotic wound so typical of Brown Recluse toxins.  Google them and see the horror they can cause. I still have my Right Pinky flubbed up from a Fiddle Back (Brown Recluse) bite from Nov 8th, 2008. Detatched fingernail, peeling skin, itchy and an intermittent rash, 3 1/2 years ago.

For a positive ID, and I do mean positive....there is a nearly perfect violin shaped mark on their backs. Google again. They seem to be spreading, but do not exist everywhere. Californians don't have the Brown Recluse, http://www.brownreclusespider.org/brown-recluse-spider-location.htm (http://www.brownreclusespider.org/brown-recluse-spider-location.htm) but might have a few Hobos up North. Here is a map, although they may be more widespread than shown. http://www.burkemuseum.org/spidermyth/myths/hobo.html# (http://www.burkemuseum.org/spidermyth/myths/hobo.html#)

But here is the crux of what I have learned.  No, spiders don't kill out easily--at least directly--because of the reason stated above. Their head, thorax and abdomen are carried above much of the contact pestisides. But!!!! They have to eat, and they don't eat you, or groceries in the pantry.  You can see a great reduction in their population by starving them of their insect prey.  They are predators, solitary, and reculsive (hence the name) by nature. They are hunters and mostly nocturnal.  Kill out their food source and they are controlled.  But they are also cannibals and will feed for a time on each other, and survive.  Oh, and those eggs hatch too.

They love clutter. Boxes, wood piles, cardboard, books are perfect hiding spots.  Their webs are poorly made, and aren't used as much as beautiful garden spiders do, to catch their food.  They are your friends. Brown Recluses are NOBODYS friend. Trust me.  And unfortunately, the Hobo Spider is like a Brown Recluse, but sporting a  BAD ATTITUDE. They carry MAGNUMS and are aggressive. Brown Recluse aren't aggressive.

And if you find mud wasps, like what we call mud daubers in Kansas, the cells of their mud nests are often FILLED(!) with stung Brown Recluse Spiders... as food for their developing larvae. I LOVE Mud Daubers only because I HATE Fiddle Back Spiders. Our particular Mud Daubers are gentle and mostly considerate of interlopers, not like paper wasps.

We use Enforcer Flea Spray and it kills most all the critters Brown Recluse Spiders feed on. I buy it by the gallon at Atwoods, or Tractor Supply, and use it through a weed sprayer. Here is a link for Amazon cans, but it is too expensive that way. http://www.amazon.com/Enforcer-Prod-FS14-Flea-Spray/dp/B001ACMLPE (http://www.amazon.com/Enforcer-Prod-FS14-Flea-Spray/dp/B001ACMLPE)  A gallon at Atwoods or other Farm Supply Stores was like $20.00 the last time we used it, with AMAZING and lasting results.

My 2 cents, WAAAY after the fact.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: mk162 on July 09, 2012, 08:19:01 AM
Hah, paper wasps.  I am dealing with those right now...so far over a dozen in the house.  My neighbor thought it would be a good idea to let his nest get the size of a basketball before getting rid of it.  So the ones that lived are looking for a new home.  I called out the pest company and they have done a great job with the hornets, but nothing with the spiders....

which brings me to, there isn't much you can do about spiders because there isn't a very effective way to kill them.  Their bodies walk above any spray or powder.  About the only thing you can do is treat for other bugs and try and stay on top of spider webs.

The $250 i spend a year on a pest service is worth it.  Everything they use is pet and kid friendly and the guy cleans the cobwebs off the house.  I couldn't be happier.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Gilligan on July 09, 2012, 10:28:59 AM
Am I the only one that likes bugs on here?

I carried a wasp out by hand the other day tht was trapped in the office, I'll get rid of wasp nest in bad places by hand.  Spiders are obvious, have to escort them out (some I leave so they can be effective inside).

Hell, I even escort roaches outside when they end up in the house... Ants are about the only thing that I don't tolerate and that is mainly because they don't take hints and persuasion... they just keep coming in!
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: mk162 on July 09, 2012, 10:31:49 AM
so do roaches, and they carry plenty of diseases.  Paper wasps will sting you for sh!ts and giggles.

The problem we are seeing was the winter was so mild that it didn't kill off a lot of the pests, so now most nests are 3 times the size they normally are.  It's been a bad year for bugs.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Frog on July 09, 2012, 11:05:51 AM
Am I the only one that likes bugs on here?

I carried a wasp out by hand the other day tht was trapped in the office, I'll get rid of wasp nest in bad places by hand.  Spiders are obvious, have to escort them out (some I leave so they can be effective inside).

Hell, I even escort roaches outside when they end up in the house... Ants are about the only thing that I don't tolerate and that is mainly because they don't take hints and persuasion... they just keep coming in!

We keep spider relocation kits in three strategic locations.
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Gilligan on July 09, 2012, 11:11:18 AM
so do roaches, and they carry plenty of diseases.  Paper wasps will sting you for sh!ts and giggles.

The problem we are seeing was the winter was so mild that it didn't kill off a lot of the pests, so now most nests are 3 times the size they normally are.  It's been a bad year for bugs.

Actually that is not true at all.   Roaches don't carry diseases like most people think.  Also, only female wasps sting, so you won't ALWAYS be stung.  Plus they don't sting for "fun".  Just like spiders won't bite for fun.  Now if you go and partially squish one, you WILL get bit/stung!
Title: Re: spiders everywhere.
Post by: Frog on July 09, 2012, 11:20:49 AM
so do roaches, and they carry plenty of diseases.  Paper wasps will sting you for sh!ts and giggles.

The problem we are seeing was the winter was so mild that it didn't kill off a lot of the pests, so now most nests are 3 times the size they normally are.  It's been a bad year for bugs.

Sounds more like it is a good year for bugs! (bad year for Brads)  ;D