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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: ScreenPrinter123 on July 19, 2012, 07:09:57 PM

Title: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: ScreenPrinter123 on July 19, 2012, 07:09:57 PM
I think the results, insofar as opacity is concerned, speak for themselves.  This was through a 150s mesh coated 2/2 with chromablue - one hit for an underbase - about 12-15 lbs of pressure (at least according to the digital readout at the print head).

Don't have enough superior ink to try testing flash times in comparison to the streetfighter flash time, but Superior wins with regard to opacity for sure.
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: pwalsh on July 19, 2012, 10:01:19 PM
Not that it matters to everyone but Rutland SF-2 is a Phthalate free ink.

I dont think that the regular white from MSS is Phthalate free.
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: Shanarchy on July 19, 2012, 10:08:54 PM
Thanks for posting this! These are the two inks I was looking to sample.

Paul is correct about MSS superior. MSS does make a pthalate free ink, which they simply call phthalate free white. I will be sampling that in the very near future. If anyone on here has tried it, I would love to hear their results.
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: ScreenPrinter123 on July 19, 2012, 10:25:24 PM
This was the SF-2 by the way.
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: Shawn (EIP) on July 19, 2012, 11:11:32 PM
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Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: Screened Gear on July 19, 2012, 11:42:05 PM
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Finish Him!!!
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: ScreenPrinter123 on July 20, 2012, 12:02:26 AM
Come on -- everyone knows that "Finish Him" is from Karate Kid I.
Title: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: Get Shirts on July 20, 2012, 06:05:02 AM
And mortal combat
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: screenprintguy on July 23, 2012, 04:06:44 PM
Thanks for posting that PWalsh, I have asked that question a few times and couldn't get an answer on why such a nice white ink would be under 50 bucks a gallon. We do a lot of printing for schools and youth ect., and need to be assured that the inks we use have no phthalate, pvc, mercury,or lead. Seems like the lower cost inks contain these toxic compounds. So now, if they do make a white ink that is phthalate free, is it also free of the other toxins, and what is the cost of that ink, does anyone know?

Thanks
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: jasonl on July 23, 2012, 04:17:00 PM
Pwalsh, tell us about your white, its at 40 bucks a gallon.  I would love to hear some feedback about it, but I think no one knows its available.
I think people would use it.
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: inkman996 on July 23, 2012, 04:44:57 PM
I do not think Nazdar sells Rutland, wilfex and international only I believe.
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: Frog on July 23, 2012, 04:51:57 PM
Right, Rutland SF-2 is not" P Walsh's  ink", it merely is one of the two in this comparison, and Peter pointed out that it is the one of the two that is Phthalate free or compliant.
He also pointed out that, in and of itself is not a deal breaker for the vast majority of shirts printed for users other than infants and toddlers.
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: Shanarchy on July 23, 2012, 05:17:21 PM
Thanks for posting that PWalsh, I have asked that question a few times and couldn't get an answer on why such a nice white ink would be under 50 bucks a gallon. We do a lot of printing for schools and youth ect., and need to be assured that the inks we use have no phthalate, pvc, mercury,or lead. Seems like the lower cost inks contain these toxic compounds. So now, if they do make a white ink that is phthalate free, is it also free of the other toxins, and what is the cost of that ink, does anyone know?

Thanks


Call Miami Screen Supply. that's what I did when I wanted to find out if they had a pthalate free ink. I posted up the info in the last MSS thread. They were very willing to answer questions about their ink. They could probably help you with the details of the other contents you are curious about. Maybe even provide you with certification.

http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,4254.msg47195.html#msg47195 (http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,4254.msg47195.html#msg47195)
They have 4 different whites (all low bleed):

superior: this is an auto ink
smooth: this is a little thinner and made to be manual friendly
super: kind of a middle ground between the two
these three inks are not phthalate free

The 4th is "pthalate free white". It performs closest to the superior, and is more of an auto ink
it costs $10 more per 5 gallons than the above three.
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: jasonl on July 23, 2012, 06:10:52 PM
I do not think Nazdar sells Rutland, wilfex and international only I believe.

Nazdar has their own brand.  Its new.  Thats why most have never heard of it.  But it sells for 40 bucks a gallon.
Title: Re: Rutland Streetfighter Low Bleed Vs. Miami Ink Superior White Ink
Post by: JBLUE on July 23, 2012, 07:28:33 PM
I do not think Nazdar sells Rutland, wilfex and international only I believe.

Nazdar has their own brand.  Its new.  Thats why most have never heard of it.  But it sells for 40 bucks a gallon.

But who really makes it is the question. Where do they get the raw materials from? I do not know where they get them but a lot of these places still buy the raw components from Poly One and Rutland plastics.