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screen printing => Waterbase and Discharge => Topic started by: cclaud3 on July 27, 2012, 11:03:21 AM

Title: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: cclaud3 on July 27, 2012, 11:03:21 AM
I've been researching & considering trying out some discharge and other waterbase stuff. It looks like this was just released--saw it while on YouTube. Looks interesting, I guess the advantage is that you still have access to your regular plastisol if needed instead of converting to all waterbase/discharge?

Ryocharge - New Discharge additive to turn plastisol into discharge ink! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMfwjSWtHM8#ws)
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: starchild on July 27, 2012, 11:16:39 AM
Ryonet is not an ink manufacturer their inks are after market.. I would start by finding out who manufactures their inks and.. by the manufactures reputation and info about that product, you will be able to guage what you are getting into.
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: cclaud3 on July 27, 2012, 11:24:08 AM
Right, just thought it looked interesting and if anyone had experience with this concept.
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: Nick Bane on July 27, 2012, 11:29:16 AM
Union makes a Plasticharge ink.  Ive got some on the shelf but havent had a chance to try it out yet.
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: 3Deep on July 27, 2012, 11:35:10 AM
I got some union plasticharge too and it works the same way, the clear base smells like bubblegum, it works with just about any ink as well...nice vid from those guys.

Darryl
Ps its in show your stuff under discharge underbase, plus some else posted a pic of theres too
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: cclaud3 on July 27, 2012, 11:38:19 AM
Ah, I didn't realize plasticharge was a mix-in type thing. I'm already using Union inks so maybe I should look into it.
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: Shawn (EIP) on July 27, 2012, 12:24:45 PM
I always figured plastisol would mask the discharge and not discharge evenly but more blotchy if at all...

Does it have to be plasti-charge?
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on July 27, 2012, 12:34:04 PM
Well from Ryonet it has to be either CCI or International Coatings. I am thinking CCI if you look at their item number on Ryonets website it starts with CC
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: tpitman on July 27, 2012, 07:55:54 PM
I always figured plastisol would mask the discharge and not discharge evenly but more blotchy if at all...

Does it have to be plasti-charge?

Plasticharge is water based. You mix your plastisol in about 50/50 and stir the hell out of it, along with the activator. It's a bit of an oil/water emulsified thing, but it works, doesn't dry that quickly in the screen, and washes out very well. Pretty soft hand, and no, the color isn't splotchy. I've fiddled with it. So has Wayne (screen express), and some others, I guess. It's an easy way to put a toe into discharge without going full monty with all of the water based bases and pigments.
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: jsheridan on July 27, 2012, 08:21:46 PM
Plasticharge is a waste of money and makes yours inks go pastel.

Use regular waterbase discharge and take the money, and time, you saved and buy a 12 pack on the way home.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on July 27, 2012, 08:47:17 PM
Some people have success some don't. I personally did not like the results as was just said a lot of colors are muted. Go Sericol and don't look back. No pigments to deal with. Has to be the best and easiest system out there.
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: Shawn (EIP) on July 27, 2012, 10:53:50 PM
Some people have success some don't. I personally did not like the results as was just said a lot of colors are muted. Go Sericol and don't look back. No pigments to deal with. Has to be the best and easiest system out there.

Maybe it works better with HP inks rather than standard inks.
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on July 27, 2012, 11:05:37 PM
Yes it does but even still some colors come out chalky like.
Title: Re: New Plastisol Discharge Mix?
Post by: jasonl on July 28, 2012, 08:09:43 AM
Well from Ryonet it has to be either CCI or International Coatings. I am thinking CCI if you look at their item number on Ryonets website it starts with CC

Big changes coming to Ryonet, they wouldnt say which one, but they will have rutland or wilflex by the end of the year, from what i am told.