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Computers and Software => Computers and Software - General => Topic started by: inkman996 on August 17, 2012, 11:48:11 AM
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Came into work yesterday morning and found my main PC was rebooted after a critical error and blue screen. Hmmmm I think hardware issue or heat. Start working on some stuff and the PC blue screens. Reboot blue screen. Only error i can see is something about memory capacity and dll issues. Finally get in to safe mode and run malbyte, bang it states I have a rootkit called alure. WTF! this some how happened over night while at home I run anti spyware in the back ground and windows fire wall and on a router so how the hell did something like that get through?
Any ways I tried to get the crap out and save my self from reformatting the PC no luck. It was seriously embedded tons of registries renamed dll's etc.
My point is I am tired of this crap totally, me and the boss discussed getting me an Imac or tower. My issue is all my equipment requires windows. I know Mac has something called Parallels for windws I want to know how practical it is especially since I will have to go back and forth from MAC to windows quite often.
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There are two ways to do it if I'm understanding correctly.
Bootcamp (probably your better/more compatible option), where you have basically a dual boot system.
Then Parallels (if I'm understanding it correctly because I have honestly not used it personally), this is basically a "Virtual pc". It runs as an application launching windows as such. I run VBox on a linux server for a special application that I believe I have already talked to you about Mike. This isn't much different than any other Virtual PC environment I don't think.
Only problem I can see with parallels is that it uses virtual hooks into hardware... it has no actual network card or com port. It ties into the real comports and network cards and such through virtual devices that talk to the main OS (in this case X) running. I'm not sure every item would like that... especially the more stubborn USB, serial or parallel devices (assuming you have them). Dongles for example, MIGHT be a problem.
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Much, much better that Parallels. I have it at work and it is breeze to switch back and fort.
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Kevin you nailed my concerns right on the head. I have three dongles and a slew of USB printers. Fortunately no serials. I think if worse came to worse I can always have a small crappy PC buried under the desk for sending to my equipment, still would rather avoid that.
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Much, much better that Parallels. I have it at work and it is breeze to switch back and fort.
I'd suggest "switching" is not the best term for Virtual Machines.
They are run as a window. It's more akin to switching between Photoshop and Illustrator in the "switching". Granted, I used the term switching right there, it's just when talking about OS's in the per-virtualization days it would be a lot more trouble than clicking on an icon on your "smart bar" or whatever that bar is called on Mac... I just thought I'd clear it up that you don't ever really get out of X, you just run it like a "remote control" window almost.
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Kevin you nailed my concerns right on the head. I have three dongles and a slew of USB printers. Fortunately no serials. I think if worse came to worse I can always have a small crappy PC buried under the desk for sending to my equipment, still would rather avoid that.
Printers (assuming basic printers) should work. Will Accurip or something like that work? Not sure, very suspect actually.
Dongles... that's probably a bigger issue because of the "security" issues that they are already dealing with. For that you probably need to contact the manufactures to see if they have tested them in a virtual environment.
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I have Fusion on my Mac, though I haven't used it in months... it worked well when I used it though.
Steve
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Kevin you nailed my concerns right on the head. I have three dongles and a slew of USB printers. Fortunately no serials. I think if worse came to worse I can always have a small crappy PC buried under the desk for sending to my equipment, still would rather avoid that.
Printers (assuming basic printers) should work. Will Accurip or something like that work? Not sure, very suspect actually.
Dongles... that's probably a bigger issue because of the "security" issues that they are already dealing with. For that you probably need to contact the manufactures to see if they have tested them in a virtual environment.
Ugh thats what I was afraid of.
Printers consist of
Graphtec Plotter which i believe has a mac rip already
Laser Printer, no mac support
Film Maker for an epson
and a Brother GT54 garment printer
I would prefer using a virtual windows versus dual booting that would be to time consuming. If this whole Mac idea is not viable what is a good solution in PC's IBM maybe? I want as hassle free as humanely possible after so many years of dealing with PC's I need a break.
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I use Fusion on my MacBook, running Windows XP. The only things I use it for is Ghostscript/Ghostview, the Union Ink Mixopake program and the one for mixing Matsui inks.
I usually open the Windows screen on another monitor, then drag files across from my Mac.
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I usually open the Windows screen on another monitor, then drag files across from my Mac.
That's pretty slick.
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Kevin you nailed my concerns right on the head. I have three dongles and a slew of USB printers. Fortunately no serials. I think if worse came to worse I can always have a small crappy PC buried under the desk for sending to my equipment, still would rather avoid that.
Printers (assuming basic printers) should work. Will Accurip or something like that work? Not sure, very suspect actually.
Dongles... that's probably a bigger issue because of the "security" issues that they are already dealing with. For that you probably need to contact the manufactures to see if they have tested them in a virtual environment.
Ugh thats what I was afraid of.
Printers consist of
Graphtec Plotter which i believe has a mac rip already
Laser Printer, no mac support
Film Maker for an epson
and a Brother GT54 garment printer
I would prefer using a virtual windows versus dual booting that would be to time consuming. If this whole Mac idea is not viable what is a good solution in PC's IBM maybe? I want as hassle free as humanely possible after so many years of dealing with PC's I need a break.
Mike, that is a tall order... but I could be mistaken in concerning you of it not working... definitely don't take my word for it.
If you decide not to go Mac then I guess prebuilt there is obviously a lot of love for the think stations. I have no real opinion on anything "out of the box" for desktops.
If you do keep with windows, I'd suggest Eset Nod32 for antivirus and regularly scanning with Malwarebytes. I personally run neither, I go "commando", but I can stand to be down if that .00001% rears its head and I get a virus. Been years though.
I recommend running MBAM about once a week or anytime something isn't acting right. Some viruses get in and lay dormant for a while, that may have been what happened to your computer. A regular scanning should flush those out. Hell, there is nothing wrong with running that sucker everyday on your way out the door really.
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Good advice Kevin but its not actually the virus malware that is my main concern. I am more in search of a powerful but completely stable system. I could build something but thats not always a garauntee either. I hear a lot about IBM's, personally I would not care if the rig couldnt run videos or show pictures just be a work only machine.
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You could always look at hackintosh hardware... that is "somewhat" proven. Just build that and install windows 7 on it.
I would imagine with the right research you should be able to build something rock solid. If you don't believe me just wait, Brandt will chime in. (Just razing you Brandt! ;) )
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Kevin you nailed my concerns right on the head. I have three dongles and a slew of USB printers. Fortunately no serials. I think if worse came to worse I can always have a small crappy PC buried under the desk for sending to my equipment, still would rather avoid that.
Printers (assuming basic printers) should work. Will Accurip or something like that work? Not sure, very suspect actually.
Dongles... that's probably a bigger issue because of the "security" issues that they are already dealing with. For that you probably need to contact the manufactures to see if they have tested them in a virtual environment.
Ugh thats what I was afraid of.
Printers consist of
Graphtec Plotter which i believe has a mac rip already
Laser Printer, no mac support
Film Maker for an epson
and a Brother GT54 garment printer
I would prefer using a virtual windows versus dual booting that would be to time consuming. If this whole Mac idea is not viable what is a good solution in PC's IBM maybe? I want as hassle free as humanely possible after so many years of dealing with PC's I need a break.
Graphtec has drivers for Mac, not sure about the laser printer, no info there, I know AccuRIP comes for either PC or Mac on the same disc, maybe you can get an upgrade from Film Maker, and the Brother could have files sent over the network, same as a flash drive really. You'll need to do some homework, maybe at Fusion's forum. Good luck.
Steve
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I use vmware fusion because my RIP is windows only and I don't want to spend the money to get the OSX version. I have been using the same laptop for the last three years and I haven't had any problems with it.
One of the great things about running windows in a VM is that you can create save states that you can go back to in case things go pear shaped on you. That and it is nicely quarantined from your main operating system. It doesn't hurt that I have mine isolated from the network (no internet) and that I only have exactly what I need on it.
Personally, the Imac would be the best choice. The Pro (tower) line hasn't been updated for a long while, iirc. Though the next time I am looking to upgrade, I will probably go with another MBP. I plug mine into a 24" monitor when I am at home and it works just like a tower does in a way.
Regarding dongles, My rip uses a usb one and I haven't had any issues. The windows only printer likely has a gutenberg driver for it, not official, but it should be fine.
I am pretty confident that anything you run now can be run through the VM. I have a graphtec as well and use it with OSX without issue.
Just had a brainwave. If you do end up digging out the old pc to run software that the Mac won't, as long as you keep it away from the internet you shouldn't have any malware problems.
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That is true.
Keep your machine WORK related. ;)
Put a virtual machine on your computer and only surf through that. Then it will only foul up the virtual system and leave the "real" windows in tact.
Crazy, but it would work.
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I too got fed up with all of thr pc issues and bought an imac. My intentions were to start to learn the mac side but that has not been the case. I installed VM fusion and windows XP pro and have not looked back. We run accurip, a brother GT541, epson 1400, scanner and basically everthing we need.
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I too got fed up with all of thr pc issues and bought an imac. My intentions were to start to learn the mac side but that has not been the case. I installed VM fusion and windows XP pro and have not looked back. We run accurip, a brother GT541, epson 1400, scanner and basically everthing we need.
Wow, that's an expensive "pc". LOL
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My day job is working for a large school district here in Oregon. I manage about 1500 macs 1500 PCs, and about 2000 Linux machines.
So I have a lot of experience with all of these platforms.
At inkbrigade we use virtual machines extensively.
We have a Linux server which holds about five Windows virtual machines.
One Windows virtual machine just runs fast manager and QuickBooks.
One Windows virtual machine just runs accurip.
One connects to our plotter et cetera.
Each Windows virtual machine has a firewall configured on it and basically has no reason to be connected to the Internet.
Each virtual machine takes a snapshot of itself daily, so that way if it does get messed up we are able to roll back to a previously known good working snapshot.
This way if the machine gets infected with a virus or malware, or a software update goes wrong, or windows just decides to eat itself like it loves to do, we can just roll back to a previous snapshot.
We also use the drop box service and store our QuickBooks and fast manager data in there.
With dropbox every time a file is changed it is uploaded to dropbox. This way if I have to roll back to a snapshot I do not lose the data that has changed since the last time the snapshot was taken.
So that's our inkbrigade set up, I don't know that installing Linux and doing this is the right thing for you, even Linux has gotten easier to use it still not a no-brainer to set up.
People complain that Macintoshes are expensive, but what's more expensive to me is downtime in the shop.
Macs are not hard to learn, file print, file save, copy and paste, all that sort of stuff works the same on Macintosh or windows.
With that said me, my wife and our sales person all use Macintoshes for our client computers.
I can't remember the last time that A MacIntosh ate itself software issues. Not to mention that viruses and spyware are pretty much a non-issue on Macs.
So my advice to you would be to do basically what our set up is. Except instead of running on a Linux server run the virtual machines on your Macintosh.
Please forgive any weird spelling issues as I am using speech to text software ;)
Feel free to email me directly with any server or Macintosh questions. Jamie@inkbrigade.com
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Awesome setup Ink!
I run my virtual machines similarly. I run a linux server (headless, no X) and then run VBox on it. I'd rather run Xen but I have been putting off the upgrade that would allow that.
It has had it's glitches but very simple fixes as you have described.
I love emulation/virtualization... it makes TONS of sense in lots of cases. My method though isn't really for the faint at heart since it's all driven by command line stuff... they do make GUI versions, I just don't use them so it's really hard for me to give real world examples.
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Hey Gilligan,
That sounds awesome!
nice to see there's another *nix nerd here :)
I use virtual box on my Mac because it's free and it seems to work okay.
On the Linux machine I use KVM.
Seems like a lot of people are bailing on Xen for some reason, I think some people have their panties in a bunch ever since Citrix got involved with it
KVM has been great and is built-in to the Linux kernel, failover and most of the goodies of VMware esx set up would have.
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Hmm... guess I need to do some more research. It has been a while since I first dug into it and saw how cool Xen was over something like VBox. I like the idea of the "base" being the "host" vs having an OS running and the host just running on it like any other service.
It took me months to stop getting all giddy when firing up a GUI that was running in a non-GUI (Headless) server. I still think it's cool as hell, I just don't get overly excited any longer. HAHA!
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OK guys I really thank everyone for their input even the extreme nerd related stuff! We made a decision i am taking it from what I have read here no matter what i run off a PC currently there will be a solution to also do it on a MAC. We are heading to the apple store today or tomorrow to order one and then i will find VM to install set up win7 and go from there.
Now a couple more questions.
How do you handle files from one OS to another? for instance if I am creating graphics in Illy on MAC how do I get that over to the win7 for out put?
Also someone was mention taking snap shots of the virtual windows what would i need to do that?
One last thing, i use several externals for back ups and storage will i also be able to implement them for the MAC?
TIA
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Files from one system to another.
VM Fusion will be basically another window on your Mac. You will just grab the file from desktop and just drag-and-drop to the VM window or Windows desktop.
As far as the external HD, it should not be a problem. I believe, just hook them up and you should be good to go.
BTW, I'm getting new iMac one next month too.
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Yeah, that sounds like the ticket with the drag and drop.
I don't "host" my VM session locally but you have networking capabilities just like any other... so I just have networked storage that I can get to from both sides and store my files there.
Depending on how you implement them, if they are scheduled back ups I'm certain there is a solution, probably built in like windows. If you are doing it manually then like Dennis said, it will likely be seamless.
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If you plug an external HD into an iMac, it should just recognize it and you're good to go. If not, there is something wrong with the HD, at least in my experience. I just had to get a new one at home as my 7 year old one had it's power supply go. I got the new one, took the drive out of the old one, hooked it up to an old external PS I had, and it was instantly recognized by the new iMac. Pretty easy stuff.
Steve
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If you plug an external HD into an iMac, it should just recognize it and you're good to go. If not, there is something wrong with the HD, at least in my experience. I just had to get a new one at home as my 7 year old one had it's power supply go. I got the new one, took the drive out of the old one, hooked it up to an old external PS I had, and it was instantly recognized by the new iMac. Pretty easy stuff.
Steve
Two things... does OS X recognize NTFS? I'm sure his hard drives are formatted NTFS currently... not sure if that will present a problem. I know MS never released the info on NTFS, the linux community reverse engineered it (and then, in my opinion, made it better) and now it supports it. Being *nix based I'm sure there is an NTFS package just like there is a HPFS driver for windows but it might not support it out the box... I could be wrong. Secondly, I wasn't sure if he was asking about accessing the external HD's from his virtual environment... that was the part I was unsure of.
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My assumption was that a 1tb drive would be interchangeable. Most sales people thought the same thing. So, I got home, loaded it on the mac, copied everything over and opened up on the PC. Nothing. It wanted me to re-format the drive. it said it was unrecognizable. My PC would not recognize it. It didn't say anything about it on the BOX. I took it back. (got it at Staples).
I then found a more expensive one that said it was usable on both MAC and PC but did not say if you could use them on both. I thought maybe it was one or the other...but not both.
When I got my drive home, I was afraid nothing would show up on my PC if I just formatted the drive for a MAC only, so I divided it up into partitions. I set one for a MAC and one for PC.
Macs recognize the PC drives easily enough. No prob. I can view/copy save/ files from my Mac partition and I can view my PC partition at the same time (on a mac).
When I plug it into the PC, the PC does not show the MAC partition (AT ALL).
So now, I have 300 gb of space on my 1tb drive that sits empty since I can't bring them over to my PC. I guess I could now copy everything from my 1tb drive over to the new 2tb rive....and reformat the old one for just PC...that way my mac will read all of it. again, danged PC's.
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Dan, as I mentioned above (probably while you were typing), there is a driver for PC's that lets you read the Mac file format.
The one file format that is "universal" is Fat32... the problem is you can't have files over 4gig in size. I have many files that are larger than that in my world so that doesn't work for me. NTFS is a great file system but Linux doesn't support it straight out the box (well, not read/write) but is extremely easy to in Linux. Not sure how it works on OS X.
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All our externals are NTFS which is what i was eluding to being an issue. I figured the virtual win willhave no issue but would want to be able to access the files on there if i am using illy from the MAC side. I figured MAC OS cannot recognize NTFS or any thing placed in it.
I know what you are thinking why bother with the files in MAC since i am a corel user and will run corel in the windows enviroment but i plan on ditching Corel as soon as practical. I hate Corel now more so than ever and even more with the latest changes.
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As I said, I'm SURE there is a "third party" solution to this if there isn't one built in. And lets face it, if Steve Jobs won't admit that Bill Gates had a good idea with the 2nd mouse button then you KNOW he won't give him NTFS. ;)
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hey according to strongbad, you should stop rubbing that "plastic bar of soap around on the desk."
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail153.html (http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail153.html)
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LOVES me some Strongbad!
Just made my daughter watch the Trogdor episode the other day.
Does anyone here happen to print for those guys? I had a few of their shirts about a decade ago.
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I love the "kind of cool" because Senior Cardgage drags around an Aldi bag. Sweet.
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If you plug an external HD into an iMac, it should just recognize it and you're good to go. If not, there is something wrong with the HD, at least in my experience. I just had to get a new one at home as my 7 year old one had it's power supply go. I got the new one, took the drive out of the old one, hooked it up to an old external PS I had, and it was instantly recognized by the new iMac. Pretty easy stuff.
Steve
I pulled the hard drive out of my wife's defunct Toshiba laptop, put it in a $15 USB enclosure, and plugged it into my MacBook. Saved all of her music and data files to DVD plus transferred them to her HP laptop over our wireless network at home.
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Just got back from New Haven Apple store, wow what an experience this place was! It is dead center of Yale so you can imagine what the crowd was like and busier than star bucks right next door was. Yet the second we walked in we had an associate helping us. Bought the IMAC 21.5, upgraded to 2.7Ghz 1TB drive and 8 gig RAM plus the graphic card. Bought Fusion right there as well! All purchased and the guy says want to set it up quick, huh? I am like how liong will that take, thinking hour plus, nope he said ten minutes tops. Sure enough un packed up and running in less than ten, set up my IMAP emails in 10 seconds, set up my Icloud which i already have through my Ipad. Meanshile as pretty as the Macs are in the store my eyes were about to come out of my head with the women from Yale walking around wow!
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/inkman996/mac.jpg)
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Well, you aren't actually INSTALLING OS X... it's just the final steps of setting it up. Not unlike any big name brand PC. They don't take but a few minutes to put in your name and configure the last minute stuff.
Why didn't you go with more ram? Granted if you can pop the cover and do it yourself you will save a ton of money vs the in store "upgrade". That goes for any manufacture.
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Just got back from New Haven Apple store, wow what an experience this place was! It is dead center of Yale so you can imagine what the crowd was like and busier than star bucks right next door was. Yet the second we walked in we had an associate helping us. Bought the IMAC 21.5, upgraded to 2.7Ghz 1TB drive and 8 gig RAM plus the graphic card. Bought Fusion right there as well! All purchased and the guy says want to set it up quick, huh? I am like how liong will that take, thinking hour plus, nope he said ten minutes tops. Sure enough un packed up and running in less than ten, set up my IMAP emails in 10 seconds, set up my Icloud which i already have through my Ipad. Meanshile as pretty as the Macs are in the store my eyes were about to come out of my head with the women from Yale walking around wow!
Ya mean like THIS?
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And congrats on the iMac, too. Not the cheapest, but worth every penny!
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Welcome to the Mac world :)
You'll like it there
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Thanks guys, just about to set everything up on it. Only concern i have is I might not have a full win cd only upgrades, thats going to suck if we have to spend a couple hundred more for something we already have ugh.
Hey Gilligan I am right with you we only took the upgrade RAM on the spot because it includes other upgrades as well for an ok price but I do plan on doubling the RAM. I have extra sticks of several RAMS DD3 dual etc but not sure if any would work in the MAC. Is MAC Ram and PC the same animals?
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http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/1333DDR3S16P/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_campaign=googlebase&gclid=CPPujZbv-LECFUXf4AodoSoAsw (http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/1333DDR3S16P/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_campaign=googlebase&gclid=CPPujZbv-LECFUXf4AodoSoAsw)
16 Gig memory for new iMac
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[url]http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/1333DDR3S16P/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_campaign=googlebase&gclid=CPPujZbv-LECFUXf4AodoSoAsw[/url] ([url]http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/1333DDR3S16P/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_campaign=googlebase&gclid=CPPujZbv-LECFUXf4AodoSoAsw[/url])
16 Gig memory for new iMac
Nice! Thanks Dennis. Mike you are going to love the stability of that thing. I run 8 gigs of ram and a 1 gig graphics card on my Imac and it handles everything I throw at it.
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They are the SAME animal Mike. Just get the specs and plug it in.
All those "mac" sites would LOVE for you to believe there is fairy dust in those sticks of ram they sell.
Check this out... at least newegg has sane prices unlike that site Denis posted... geez man!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231576 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231576)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231531 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231531)
The difference in the model number is that one has an "L" in it. I bet you might as well say that the L stands for "Lower markup".
All the specs are IDENTICAL.
Do some googling you will find that most people will tell you the same. Memory is made to a standard... it has to to work in the mother boards. As long as you are buying a quality stick of ram it is all the SAME.
OR, I could put a Mac sticker on it for you for an additional $30 bucks. ;)
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I posted it for the model, not the price. It was the first one when I googled it. :)
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I have not needed to upgrade mine but for 93 bucks why not.... ;)
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You completely missed my point.
It should only be $84 bucks.
You are paying $10 bucks for ZILCH!
Why not send me a $10 spot on top of that for "saving" you so much money. ;)
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Actually I did not. For the time it would take me to spend trying to save that 10 bucks looking on google I could have ordered it and made double or triple that amount. I liken it to the same philosophy of driving all the way across town to save 3 cents per gallon of gas.
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I don't buy my RAM from Mac sites, they're just waiting for you. It's been a while, but I think the last place I used was called RAMJet, fair price, shipped right away.
Steve
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Actually I did not. For the time it would take me to spend trying to save that 10 bucks looking on google I could have ordered it and made double or triple that amount. I liken it to the same philosophy of driving all the way across town to save 3 cents per gallon of gas.
You did see that I posted TWO links. One was "regular" ram at $84 bucks and the other was the exact same ram labeled "mac ram" at $94 bucks.
Saving you almost HALF of what that company that Dennis posted was trying to sell you that ram for.
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I have two sticks of these unopened I purchased as back ups recently. It seems to have the same specs but not sure of the pin count for the MAC hopefully its the same that would give me 16gig RAM today.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6753738&CatId=3433 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6753738&CatId=3433)
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Mike, I believe that there are only two slots for RAM on iMac.
You can not add 2 extra sticks to the 2 you already have.
BTW, those are regular tower/desktop RAM sticks that will not fit in the iMacs. They take smaller laptop memory.
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Mike, I believe that there are only two slots for RAM on iMac.
You can not add 2 extra sticks to the 2 you already have.
BTW, those are regular tower/desktop RAM sticks that will not fit in the iMacs. They take smaller laptop memory.
Aww crap just figured that our I need 204 pin, thats cool then just gong to order from the sites listed.
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Just got back from New Haven Apple store, wow what an experience this place was! It is dead center of Yale so you can imagine what the crowd was like and busier than star bucks right next door was. Yet the second we walked in we had an associate helping us. Bought the IMAC 21.5, upgraded to 2.7Ghz 1TB drive and 8 gig RAM plus the graphic card. Bought Fusion right there as well! All purchased and the guy says want to set it up quick, huh? I am like how liong will that take, thinking hour plus, nope he said ten minutes tops. Sure enough un packed up and running in less than ten, set up my IMAP emails in 10 seconds, set up my Icloud which i already have through my Ipad. Meanshile as pretty as the Macs are in the store my eyes were about to come out of my head with the women from Yale walking around wow!
([url]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/inkman996/mac.jpg[/url])
I like our 27 inch iMac and our MacBook Pro, but I just can't seem to get any real work done on them. I had to stick to PC's for work. Best of luck though, they are great machines not a doubt about it.
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Next question how can I set up my extra 24" monitor for dualies?
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I believe that you can not :)
At least, older iMacs did not have that option. That is only on Macs with towers
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I take that back, just search for :
can you add an extra monitor to an imac
I guess you can add the extra monitor now, I was not able to do it on mine.
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Next question how can I set up my extra 24" monitor for dualies?
You can, its a special cable I believe though from Apple. Probably rape ya for it. LOL.
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You can use Thunderbolt connection port to connect to the monitor with HDMI port (The easiest way)
Adapter: http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=thunderbolt+hdmi+adapter&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=7281295208&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=51554869342706913&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&ref=pd_sl_7bdjz2zxv8_b (http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=thunderbolt+hdmi+adapter&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=7281295208&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=51554869342706913&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&ref=pd_sl_7bdjz2zxv8_b)
Or if you buy Thunderbolt to VGA cable:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=thunderbolt+VGA+adapter&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Athunderbolt+VGA+adapter (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=thunderbolt+VGA+adapter&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Athunderbolt+VGA+adapter)
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You can use Thunderbolt connection port to connect to the monitor with HDMI port (The easiest way)
Adapter: [url]http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=thunderbolt+hdmi+adapter&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=7281295208&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=51554869342706913&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&ref=pd_sl_7bdjz2zxv8_b[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=thunderbolt+hdmi+adapter&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=7281295208&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=51554869342706913&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&ref=pd_sl_7bdjz2zxv8_b[/url])
Or if you buy Thunderbolt to VGA cable:
[url]http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=thunderbolt+VGA+adapter&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Athunderbolt+VGA+adapter[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=thunderbolt+VGA+adapter&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Athunderbolt+VGA+adapter[/url])
F-ing sweet!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, I was reading about Thunderbolt... looks pretty slick. If it sticks that is.
Mike, you just need Laptop DDR3 ram... assuming Dennis's link was the right speed then you need DDR3 1333.