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Computers and Software => Computers and Software - General => Topic started by: inkman996 on August 29, 2012, 04:16:19 PM
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I am starting this more for the entertainment value, i thought it would be cool for others to see what a long long time PC user goes through when drastically switching to a MAC. I will add to this occasionally.
Today i spent about one half an hour trying to figure out how to kill a program that hung up. You know alt/ctrl/dele. Yes i found it eventually.
I am mildly surprised (no this is not a knock on MAC at all) that it is not as fast as windows in a lot of aspects. Simple things like opening a folder to view contents is kind slow IMHO. Maybe there is just a touch to much glitz and glamor with the MAC GUI behaviors.
I repeatedly over and over and over and over hit FN key instead of ctrl, the FN resides right on the corner where on a PC board the ctrl is, this is going to take me for ever to get used to.
More to come. Hope all you MAC users get a laugh
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I can relate a good deal. When switching from Mac to PC, it didn't take me long to remember things or to switch over but it was frustrating as all get out. Thing like color coding folders and files. Can't do it unless you get a 3rd party plugin or something.
Strange tho that you have issues with the folders and info. PC to me is very tedious versus Mac.
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I have never used anything other than a mac. I can not relate.
Good luck and enjoy.
Matt
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Command-option-esc for force quitting, I didn't even know there was a key combination for Windows to force quit, I'll have to tuck that one away. Thanks Mike
Steve
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Actually for Windows and even faster short cut is CTRL+SHIFT+Escape... this will go straight to the task manager.
I use it at least daily, granted that is because my job is to repair computers... I only say that because I truly think it is my favorite short cut key combo.
Mike, I don't know the proper way to do it but I know via the CLI (Terminal) you have the ability to use `ps` which is a text based task manager (processes tab). I live in the CLI with linux so it's all I know. If I need to kill something in a *nix program that is hanging up that is where I go. then `kill <pid>` granted, not often that you have programs hang up in Linux and when they do it's usually because I messed up a config file before launching it. :)
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Patience........
You'll be happy after you learn the small differences. Obviously, the biggest one for all users is a CTRL VS. Apple (Command) Key.
BTW, I do not know did you see my post few days ago in ShoutBox, I should be getting new 27" iMac sometimes in next 10 days. I ordered one from MacMall but it is back-ordered for a few days. They had a pretty good deal, and I think that I saved about $280 because I went with MacMall vs. Apple directly.
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I can't imagine having the command keys where the ctrl keys are on a pc. I sometimes use my parents computer and keep hitting whatever button is next to the spacebar. I think if I ever owned another windows machine, I would figure out how to turn the alt keys into ctrl keys.
The only super weird thing that I came across when I switched was the fact that I had to use the menubar or cmd+Q to quit a program. Simply closing the window does nothing.
I'm kind of curious what you mean by slow to open a folder. I have a three year old MBP and it pretty much reacts instantly to looking at folders. It may be due to the way that I have the view set in columns rather than thumbnails.
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The only super weird thing that I came across when I switched was the fact that I had to use the menubar or cmd+Q to quit a program. Simply closing the window does nothing.
That's another pet peeve of mine. It should be optional or custom for each program... because I understand why it's done that way but some programs the big red X should = QUIT.
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The only super weird thing that I came across when I switched was the fact that I had to use the menubar or cmd+Q to quit a program. Simply closing the window does nothing.
That's another pet peeve of mine. It should be optional or custom for each program... because I understand why it's done that way but some programs the big red X should = QUIT.
Man, you you've got a lot of peeves...
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Two? That's a lot?
You are a pretty sensitive guy.
Now can we not muck up this thread with petty back and forth BS.
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Command-option-esc for force quitting, I didn't even know there was a key combination for Windows to force quit, I'll have to tuck that one away. Thanks Mike
Steve
Ctrl+Alt+Del and you can call up the task manager and blitz out as many running process as you dare.
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Command-option-esc for force quitting, I didn't even know there was a key combination for Windows to force quit, I'll have to tuck that one away. Thanks Mike
Steve
Ctrl+Alt+Del and you can call up the task manager and blitz out as many running process as you dare.
CTR+Shift+Escape damnit! Everyone will learn that one! ;)
Another little known short cut is WINDOWS KEY+Pause/Break this brings up system properties (like right clicking on my computer and hitting properties)... not as useful these days as it was in the Win2k days and device manager was in that box.
In fact WINDOWS KEY + <lots of keys> does a bunch of useful tricks. The D key added will get you to your desktop immediately, the R key will bring up the Run dialog box, I use that MANY times a day... pull up cmd, calc, mspaint, mstsc (remote desktop), notepad, even browse through to my units converter app on every pc that I have so that I can cursor up or down and find it quickly through the run dialog box. That is my best friend right there (run dialog box). Especially post Vista/Win7 when the default is to not have the "Run" command on the start menu any more.
That's the lesson for today boys... test tomorrow! ;)
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The only super weird thing that I came across when I switched was the fact that I had to use the menubar or cmd+Q to quit a program. Simply closing the window does nothing.
That's another pet peeve of mine. It should be optional or custom for each program... because I understand why it's done that way but some programs the big red X should = QUIT.
Command Q quits every program, so if you want to quit a program, use command Q, it's faster than using a mouse, or trackball as we like. To close a window and leave the program running, it's command W. No moving the cursor at all.
Steve
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I like that command+q I used it today very helpful and glad to know it actually kills the program.
Gilligan are you saying alt+carl+escape goes directly to task manager since I think XP they implemented that stupid screen with extra options if you hit the age old alt+Ctrl+dele.
Today I had to pull my hair out of my head trying to find a way to back space apparently there is not one what's up with that?
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Gilligan are you saying alt+carl+escape goes directly to task manager since I think XP they implemented that stupid screen with extra options if you hit the age old alt+Ctrl+dele.
That is correct (not sure how it will work in the virtual environment though), it is awesome compared to CTRL+ALT+Delete.
I only use that in DIRE needs, maybe to check which user is logged on (if it has the users tab) or to possibly evoke a shut down command if all else fails (I'll usually do that from task manager as well). Of course to log on to a computer on a domain with that group policy option enabled of course as well or to lock a computer. There used to be a CTR+ALT+K that would lock the system on Win2k, I LOVED that as well, but it's gone the way of the Dodo as well. :(
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I can't remember which model of Macintosh you got. But one thing that makes dealing with finder windows faster, is an SSD.
Load the OS, and applications on that and it makes things much faster. I would assume it would do the same on a Windows machine.
If you can't afford a large SSD, the hybrid drives that Seagate makes work pretty well, my wife has one of those.
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If you can't afford a large SSD, the hybrid drives that Seagate makes work pretty well, my wife has one of those.
I installed one of these for the first time the other night... granted, I didn't get to really test drive the laptop very much I really wasn't all that impressed with it. Certainly not for the money (almost double a regular platter hard drive and near the same price as SSD).
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EarlieR I mentioned a slower response than windows let me clarify.
I always have used personal built rigs with lots of power and quality components, on top of that I always turn off all the washy washy crap windows runs for you automatically. Such as transparent title bars, warping folders etc. turning all tht crap off makes response times when navigating much faster for the obvious reasons.
Now in the Mac I see it has all the glitzy stuff as well but no way as of yet any ways to get rid of any of it so I do notice a bit of a slower response time. Ofcourse this all could relate to the fact I have a VM running at the same time and maybe that is a drag.
All in all I am learning my way around, it will get easier with time lol. Some things still perturbed me like for some reason it constantly loses connection but will reconnect quickly, and the damn mail program keeps asking me about an unrecognized certificicate for the out going server, this happens every time I send an email and I have to hit ok every damn time. Problem is it really screws up some of my message rules, for instance I have a lot of email addresses automatically forward to the owners email that contain invoices, I have all digitized logos automatically forwarded to our embroidery dept. but with this annoying certificate issue these message rules will not work grrrr. Tomorrow I plan on searching for an alternative email program for Mac assuming there is one.
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Meant to mention it awhile back, I'm on my first box with a SSD and mind=blown.