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General => General Discussion and ??? => Topic started by: Croft on September 17, 2012, 11:43:49 PM
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Well As I washed some screens out tonight from my MSP3140, triloc and Karcher industrial pressure washer , I was just remembering the good days of shooting screens with flourecent ( 7 minutes each) tubes in the driveway rinsing with a hose or $100 pressure washer. Those were the days.
Wait its 11:30pm DOH!!!
time to go to bed, so much for giving more time. :o
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And... handcut Rubylith, NuArc vertical camera (antique enlarger before that)...
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i have a box of rubylith here. i use it from time to time on random things...and to show people how good they have it. ;)
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Waite a minute I shoot screens with 7 minute flourecent tubes, but I have moved indoors. These ARE the good old days I was shootin for when I dropped out ::) thanks for reminding me I have arrived ;D
mooseman
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Whats wrong with 7 mintues, gives you time to do other things, yeah I upgraded my unit so now I,m getting 2 to 3 mintues to do other things sometimes a mintue LOL
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And... handcut Rubylith, NuArc vertical camera (antique enlarger before that)...
Oh yeah, though my camera was a 22 x 18 horizontal, and a NuArc arc lamp. Rubylith, shading film, I even had to tray develop films when I first started.
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From florescents, moving up to carbon arc. 8) Positives were made by placing artwork
at the base of an enlarger, exposing with some floodlights from an 8mm movie camera
to make a small negative. Then basically reversing the process to make a full size positive
focusing by eye until the image was sharp.
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And... handcut Rubylith, NuArc vertical camera (antique enlarger before that)...
Oh yeah, though my camera was a 22 x 18 horizontal, and a NuArc arc lamp. Rubylith, shading film, I even had to tray develop films when I first started.
All was tray when I started. Of course, especially with halftone work, tray developing allowed for some adjustments and tweaks.
PMT was something I learned in school, but didn't use in this biz at first, but needed for making mock up positioning stats for layout when I was a temporary fill-in grunt at Rolling Stone.
btw young'uns, it's not just the ease of making positives without a camera that changed, but converting continuous tone to halftones was a process all on its own, with expensive and easily damaged overlay sheets placed directly over the film during the camera exposure process.
Eventually, PMT was all I used in my own dark room. A real space saver!
(Wanna buy my Agfa?) In fact, this is the year I finally pull it out and give to the neighbor who sells scrap! Regain a little more closet space.
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Frog; I almost totallly forgot about PMT. I must be getting too old.
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And... handcut Rubylith, NuArc vertical camera (antique enlarger before that)...
Oh yeah, though my camera was a 22 x 18 horizontal, and a NuArc arc lamp. Rubylith, shading film, I even had to tray develop films when I first started.
All was tray when I started. Of course, especially with halftone work, tray developing allowed for some adjustments and tweaks.
PMT was something I learned in school, but didn't use in this biz at first, but needed for making mock up positioning stats for layout when I was a temporary fill-in grunt at Rolling Stone.
btw young'uns, it's not just the ease of making positives without a camera that changed, but converting continuous tone to halftones was a process all on its own, with expensive and easily damaged overlay sheets placed directly over the film during the camera exposure process.
Eventually, PMT was all I used in my own dark room. A real space saver!
(Wanna buy my Agfa?) In fact, this is the year I finally pull it out and give to the neighbor who sells scrap! Regain a little more closet space.
So, magenta halftone screen for converting color pictures, gray halftone screen for converting black and white photos, with 3 separate exposures, Highlight Bump, Main, and Shadow with a yellow light, damn that was a lot of fun.
Steve
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Boy howdy you guys are old!!!!!! :o
Darryl
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I have no clue what you guys are talking about! Just think about the next generation who will have no idea what inkjet film was and how it was used.
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One thing is for sure. Graphics arts cameras notwithstanding, don't throw anything away!
The rich young folks will buy all of your junk as retro-cool! Church key? Oil Spout? Typewriter? Lawn Darts? can you say ebay?
The same lp's (that's long playing records) that I bought for a quarter when CD's took over, are often going for as much as one hundred times that now!(your results may vary 8))
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Frog; I almost totallly forgot about PMT. I must be getting too old.
I did so many of those I think I have blocked out that time in my life :o
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One thing is for sure. Graphics arts cameras notwithstanding, don't throw anything away!
The rich young folks will buy all of your junk as retro-cool! Church key? Oil Spout? Typewriter? Lawn Darts? can you say ebay?
The same lp's (that's long playing records) that I bought for a quarter when CD's took over, are often going for as much as one hundred times that now!(your results may vary 8))
Reminds me of the time I put an LP on the turntable, cued a track in the middle, and my kid didn't know how I hit it right at the beginning. Had to tell him to count in, then look for the smooth spot that was the space between tracks by looking across the record so you could see the smooth spots.
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I have no clue what you guys are talking about! Just think about the next generation who will have no idea what inkjet film was and how it was used.
Right, why would the shirt programmers need inkjet film to program a design for the light emitting threads used to make our new clothing?
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Church key? Oil Spout? Typewriter? Lawn Darts?
LAWN DARTS ARE ILLEGAL!!!!!
Due to the same people making us jump through pthalate free hoops.
Found a set at a thrift store though, now I'm going to put someones eye out.....
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They look a lot more potentially lethal than just putting someone's eye out!
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y233/foxylibrarian/Picture1.png)
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When I began printing we used a tabletop dryer, I think it was an R Jennings model, anyone familiar with those?
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I used a four foot Ranar Scamp
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When I first started doing art professionally computers did way less than a smart phone. Everything had a feel of craftsmanship to it, sitting at a drafting table with all of your squares, templates and other implements of the trade makes you feel so artistic. I even miss the the smell of wax warming in the morning , as well as the moments of solitude that went along with dark room work . On the flip side, I probably produce way more work in a 3 hours now than I did in a day back then. Something to be said for both.
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One thing is for sure. Graphics arts cameras notwithstanding, don't throw anything away!
The rich young folks will buy all of your junk as retro-cool! Church key? Oil Spout? Typewriter? Lawn Darts? can you say ebay?
The same lp's (that's long playing records) that I bought for a quarter when CD's took over, are often going for as much as one hundred times that now!(your results may vary 8))
Reminds me of the time I put an LP on the turntable, cued a track in the middle, and my kid didn't know how I hit it right at the beginning. Had to tell him to count in, then look for the smooth spot that was the space between tracks by looking across the record so you could see the smooth spots.
gotta chuckle out of this one. . . 'wonder how many kids would be lost these days if they were given a phone with a dial?
pierre
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One thing is for sure. Graphics arts cameras notwithstanding, don't throw anything away!
The rich young folks will buy all of your junk as retro-cool! Church key? Oil Spout? Typewriter? Lawn Darts? can you say ebay?
The same lp's (that's long playing records) that I bought for a quarter when CD's took over, are often going for as much as one hundred times that now!(your results may vary 8))
Reminds me of the time I put an LP on the turntable, cued a track in the middle, and my kid didn't know how I hit it right at the beginning. Had to tell him to count in, then look for the smooth spot that was the space between tracks by looking across the record so you could see the smooth spots.
gotta chuckle out of this one. . . 'wonder how many kids would be lost these days if they were given a phone with a dial?
pierre
Yet see how some obsolete terms are still commonly in use. Some out there still type their emails to send on their dial up internet connection.
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When I first started doing art professionally computers did way less than a smart phone. Everything had a feel of craftsmanship to it, sitting at a drafting table with all of your squares, templates and other implements of the trade makes you feel so artistic. I even miss the the smell of wax warming in the morning , as well as the moments of solitude that went along with dark room work . On the flip side, I probably produce way more work in a 3 hours now than I did in a day back then. Something to be said for both.
My mouth hung open the first time I saw a demonstration of Pagemaker. On the other hand, at an in-house ad agency I worked at in the '80s all of our product was redrawn with Rapidograph pens on frosted acetate and stippled for shading. Stats scaled and shot on a stat camera, and ads pasted up with wax, then the second color cut with amberlith. I enjoyed doing the stuff, but one hot-as-sh!t day with a deadline at the newspaper about an hour off, I got into my oven-like Pinto station wagon with the mechanical, barely got out of the parking lot and looked down to see half the type and art sliding off the board.
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that's what I'm talking about. Rapidographs were so good for touch up of fine detail positives, not to mention drawing with them. Hot wax, shooting each cut individually for paste up, all that stuff. The first time I saw vertically arched text come out of a laser printer in 60 seconds, I knew everything was going to change. That was on a MacPlus, one whole meg of RAM, and a 20 MEGABYTE external hard drive, close to $2500 with a pin printer in 1989 or 90. Oh yeah, straight black and white, no grays and certainly no color.
Steve
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all of our product was redrawn with Rapidograph pens on frosted acetate and stippled for shading.
dammit that sounds awesome.