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Title: Part washer
Post by: jesterapparel on December 06, 2012, 04:53:35 PM
What do I need to know?
I think I want one to clean auto squeeges.

Would this work?
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_x_26945619-P_x_x?cm_mmc=CSE-_-Shopping-_-VALUE3-_-VALUE4&srccode=cii_13736960&cpncode=31-58295944-2#utm_source=cse&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=value3&utm_content=value4 (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_x_26945619-P_x_x?cm_mmc=CSE-_-Shopping-_-VALUE3-_-VALUE4&srccode=cii_13736960&cpncode=31-58295944-2#utm_source=cse&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=value3&utm_content=value4)

What chemical do I use that is safe and won't take years off my life.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: Printficient on December 06, 2012, 04:57:26 PM
What do I need to know?
I think I want one to clean auto squeeges.

Would this work?
[url]http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_x_26945619-P_x_x?cm_mmc=CSE-_-Shopping-_-VALUE3-_-VALUE4&srccode=cii_13736960&cpncode=31-58295944-2#utm_source=cse&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=value3&utm_content=value4[/url] ([url]http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_x_26945619-P_x_x?cm_mmc=CSE-_-Shopping-_-VALUE3-_-VALUE4&srccode=cii_13736960&cpncode=31-58295944-2#utm_source=cse&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=value3&utm_content=value4[/url])

What chemical do I use that is safe and won't take years off my life.

Yes.  I would look for a slightly more powerful pump.  Brad (MK162) uses Xenon Plastiwash in his.  Your Plastiwash cost for this washer would be $215.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on December 06, 2012, 05:07:18 PM
What do I need to know?
I think I want one to clean auto squeeges.

Would this work?
[url]http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_x_26945619-P_x_x?cm_mmc=CSE-_-Shopping-_-VALUE3-_-VALUE4&srccode=cii_13736960&cpncode=31-58295944-2#utm_source=cse&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=value3&utm_content=value4[/url] ([url]http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_x_26945619-P_x_x?cm_mmc=CSE-_-Shopping-_-VALUE3-_-VALUE4&srccode=cii_13736960&cpncode=31-58295944-2#utm_source=cse&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=value3&utm_content=value4[/url])

What chemical do I use that is safe and won't take years off my life.

Yes.  I would look for a slightly more powerful pump.  Brad (MK162) uses Xenon Plastiwash in his.  Your Plastiwash cost for this washer would be $215.

What is the expected lifetime of the $215 worth of chemical?
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: cleveprint on December 06, 2012, 05:16:20 PM
we use safety kleen and rent ours. they come every few months to re-up the chemicals. i couldn't imagine life without it.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: Printficient on December 06, 2012, 05:27:20 PM
What do I need to know?
I think I want one to clean auto squeeges.

Would this work?
[url]http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_x_26945619-P_x_x?cm_mmc=CSE-_-Shopping-_-VALUE3-_-VALUE4&srccode=cii_13736960&cpncode=31-58295944-2#utm_source=cse&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=value3&utm_content=value4[/url] ([url]http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_x_26945619-P_x_x?cm_mmc=CSE-_-Shopping-_-VALUE3-_-VALUE4&srccode=cii_13736960&cpncode=31-58295944-2#utm_source=cse&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=value3&utm_content=value4[/url])

What chemical do I use that is safe and won't take years off my life.

Yes.  I would look for a slightly more powerful pump.  Brad (MK162) uses Xenon Plastiwash in his.  Your Plastiwash cost for this washer would be $215.

What is the expected lifetime of the $215 worth of chemical?

Brad got over a year out of his.  He did install an external filter from a big rig.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: Screened Gear on December 06, 2012, 05:29:46 PM
here you go I just saved you about $150.

http://www.harborfreight.com/20-gallon-parts-washer-with-general-purpose-pump-7340.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/20-gallon-parts-washer-with-general-purpose-pump-7340.html)

I am thinking about adding one of these to my shop. Do you really need to put 20 gallons of chemicals in them.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: Binkspot on December 06, 2012, 05:37:25 PM
We got rid of ours when we moved. Now just carding them off and doing them in the wash out booth using a little citrispaste or cg 4 then blowing them off.

Last ones I have used was crystal clean parts washers. It was something like $30 a month to lease the washer and 35 gallons of solvent that would be changed every 1/4.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: jesterapparel on December 06, 2012, 06:26:03 PM
here you go I just saved you about $150.

[url]http://www.harborfreight.com/20-gallon-parts-washer-with-general-purpose-pump-7340.html[/url] ([url]http://www.harborfreight.com/20-gallon-parts-washer-with-general-purpose-pump-7340.html[/url])

I am thinking about adding one of these to my shop. Do you really need to put 20 gallons of chemicals in them.


Would this last though?
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: jesterapparel on December 06, 2012, 06:28:02 PM
we use safety kleen and rent ours. they come every few months to re-up the chemicals. i couldn't imagine life without it.

I'm a small shop, would they come twice a year?  How much does it cost?
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: mk162 on December 06, 2012, 08:51:09 PM
safety kleen is a ripoff.  trust me.  also, their chems are hard on squeegees.  read your terms of service with them, if they spill your stuff anywhere...you are responsible for the cleanup costs and liable for any lawsuits.

i get longer than that out of a thing of chems, you can pour the sludge out of the bottom and let the solids settle and skim the good stuff from the top.  the chems never really go bad, just keep filling it up and once a year or once every 18 months I would deep clean it, pop the top, pour off the good stuff and let the rest settle in a 5 gallon bucket and skim the good off that to go back in.

you can get an oil filter relocation kit from Jegs and put a huge oil filter on it, that will extend the amount of time between cleanouts.  without one i would imagine you would have to  clean it out every couple months.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: ericheartsu on December 06, 2012, 10:18:05 PM
we use crystal clean .we have them come once a year to fill up our chemicals.

because it burns if it gets on your skin
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: Inkworks on December 06, 2012, 10:28:51 PM
If you can find one, get a 30 or 40gallon, room gets tight in a 20 gallon with half a dozen squeegees and floodbars. My 40 Gallon tank is nice, and works with 5 gallons of chemical. I think the volume refers to the entire inside volume, not chemical capacity.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: tonypep on December 07, 2012, 07:24:55 AM
I have gently used Blade Runner that is free to a good home. Don't make me post the picture again!
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: Gilligan on December 09, 2012, 02:26:31 PM
We have a cheapy from Tractor Supply and their PSC-1000 (I think that is it) chemical and it's my guy's favorite tool in the shop.  He HATED cleaning squeegees and I'd have to practically force him to do it.  Now they are always clean and ready to go.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: jesterapparel on December 10, 2012, 02:23:05 PM
We have a cheapy from Tractor Supply and their PSC-1000 (I think that is it) chemical and it's my guy's favorite tool in the shop.  He HATED cleaning squeegees and I'd have to practically force him to do it.  Now they are always clean and ready to go.
Thanks, I'll run over there this week.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: bimmridder on December 10, 2012, 03:33:10 PM
Of course you wont forget gloves, safety glasses, maybe an apron, and an anti-fatigue mat? Stop by and see how we do 'em if you want to Jester
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: Gilligan on December 10, 2012, 04:26:58 PM
Of course you wont forget gloves, safety glasses, maybe an apron, and an anti-fatigue mat? Stop by and see how we do 'em if you want to Jester

Great point... we picked up an apron from TechsupportSPS about the same time because there was some splash back.

Also I read about getting horse mats from Tractor Supply and cutting them down as a cheaper alternative to ready made fatigue mats.  I wish I would have read that before I bought all of mine.  Of course get the brush to clean with... can't remember if it was next to parts washer or on a different isle.  Employee wasn't much help but I did make them load it. :)
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: inkbrigade on December 15, 2012, 05:49:21 AM
I hate cleaning squeegees too. Don't waste your time with the parts washer. The Harbor Freight one sucks, the motor dies to soon. Plus you need to fill the sink with lots of chemical before it will recirculate.

We got a saftey kleen one, started cleaning squeegees with it. What happened was the ink would get thin and then seep into the holder. It looked nice and clean.

Then the next day it would go on press, all the sudden we'd have a big orange stripe down the middle of a white ink flood.
The old ink would drip and contaminate the ink the next day.

So now my wife forbids anyone to use it and it's a $300 mistake i'm reminded of from time to time.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: Screened Gear on December 15, 2012, 06:11:19 AM
inkbrigade,

Thanks for the info. I hate washing Squeegees and floods. So you just do it with spray and shop towels then?
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: Inkworks on December 15, 2012, 09:09:09 PM
I hate cleaning squeegees too. Don't waste your time with the parts washer. The Harbor Freight one sucks, the motor dies to soon. Plus you need to fill the sink with lots of chemical before it will recirculate.

We got a saftey kleen one, started cleaning squeegees with it. What happened was the ink would get thin and then seep into the holder. It looked nice and clean.

Then the next day it would go on press, all the sudden we'd have a big orange stripe down the middle of a white ink flood.
The old ink would drip and contaminate the ink the next day.

So now my wife forbids anyone to use it and it's a $300 mistake i'm reminded of from time to time.

Never ever had that problem in close to 20 years. what sort of squeegee holders are they? M&R style?
Title: Part washer
Post by: inkbrigade on December 15, 2012, 11:38:56 PM
Yep we just card off the ink and spray with greeneway. Then wipe with paper towels.

We're using M&R squeegee holders.
Title: Re: Part washer
Post by: DCSP John on December 17, 2012, 02:45:35 PM
We use the Cystal Clean part washer and couldn't be happier.
Cleaning squeegees any other way seems like a lot of work.

John