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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: ericheartsu on January 18, 2013, 11:52:01 AM

Title: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ericheartsu on January 18, 2013, 11:52:01 AM
we just installed a used Gauntlet in the shop, and i'm wondering if you kind ladies and gents could tell me how i can stop my squeegee and flood bar carriage from hitting the stoppers so hard? If i remember correctly there should be some sort of air valve control, but im not sure where it is!
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: tonypep on January 18, 2013, 11:55:17 AM
Those shocks are blown out most likely. Bill Foust has some urethane replacements that are better and probably less expensive.
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: Nick Bane on January 18, 2013, 11:56:42 AM
yep, sounds like blown shocks, get the urethane bump stops to replace em with.
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ericheartsu on January 18, 2013, 11:57:29 AM
Would you guys be able to take a picture and show me exactly what the shock is?
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: alan802 on January 18, 2013, 11:59:47 AM
Assuming this press doesn't have proxy sensors?  What year press is it?
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: broadway on January 18, 2013, 12:02:00 PM
The controls are located on top of the print arm, if that is what you are asking. The shocks are what the squeegee/flood bars will hit before flooding, printing.
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ericheartsu on January 18, 2013, 12:04:41 PM
Assuming this press doesn't have proxy sensors?  What year press is it?

It does, it's a 97 i believe.
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ericheartsu on January 18, 2013, 12:06:11 PM
i just checked, and it does not have the proxies at the front of the head, only at the back
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: broadway on January 18, 2013, 12:08:40 PM
I like the gas shocks better, they do not last as long. The rubber ones bounce a little even with slow speeds. I have both on my press. Try Areo Parts or m&r, should be about $50. each.
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: mk162 on January 18, 2013, 12:10:20 PM
I am not a fan of the gas shocks.  it seems like I am constantly chasing weak shocks with those
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: T Shirt1 on January 18, 2013, 12:15:26 PM
The two valves should control the squeegie and flood speeds.  You can try turning down them down a little.  If it's like our 91 left is  more air and right is less. I like the rubber bumpers better.
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ericheartsu on January 18, 2013, 12:18:55 PM
Thank you all very much for the very informative and quick responses!
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ericheartsu on January 21, 2013, 12:21:33 PM
is there a way to change the start position of the flood/squeegee? to use this press for waterbase/discharge?
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: Nick Bane on January 21, 2013, 12:27:23 PM
change to front stop, screen will stay flooded during index.
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ericheartsu on January 21, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
how would i do that? sorry i don't see the switch to do that!
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: cbjamel on January 21, 2013, 01:03:33 PM
Do you have front/back switches on the control board. I have 97 Gauntlet 2 Servo and do. Flip switch to front then hit reset with all air and machine on.  Should move foward.

Shane
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ericheartsu on January 21, 2013, 01:53:54 PM
not that i'm aware of. our gauntlet is all air, not servo
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: mk162 on January 21, 2013, 01:57:33 PM
Ours doesn't have it either.

Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: Homer on January 21, 2013, 02:07:30 PM
how would i do that? sorry i don't see the switch to do that!

what we do is haul ass. no stopping...OR if you have to stop, turn the squeegie speed down to zero, print that head, wait for it to chop to the squeegie then hit the reset button to drop the table. You can then index the press and print other heads or whatever....PITA but it works.
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ScreenFoo on January 21, 2013, 02:11:28 PM
You could always flip the hoses on the stroke and chopper cylinders--if you do more WB/DC than plastisol, at least.
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: mk162 on January 21, 2013, 02:17:13 PM
you would also have to switch wires on your prox sensors as well. 
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: Binkspot on January 21, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
You could always flip the hoses on the stroke and chopper cylinders--if you do more WB/DC than plastisol, at least.

I don't think that would work with only a rear prox, you would have to trick the PLC.

It still leaves the screen dry, which I think is root of the question. If I'm reading this right you want to flood the screen as the pallets drop to keep it wet in between prints. So print, flood, index, print, repeat.
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: Inkworks on January 21, 2013, 02:34:52 PM
Not sure about the Gauntlet for sure, but can't you just switch the floodbar and squeegee and adjust angles?
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ericheartsu on January 21, 2013, 02:36:36 PM
Not sure about the Gauntlet for sure, but can't you just switch the floodbar and squeegee and adjust angles?

nope, cause then it would print when the plattens index
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: cbjamel on January 21, 2013, 02:50:19 PM
What year is your Gauntlet? Could you post picture of control panel. Do you have Revolver mode?

Shane
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: Binkspot on January 21, 2013, 03:00:52 PM
Instead of guessing and taking stabs in the dark why not call M&R and ask?
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ScreenFoo on January 21, 2013, 04:16:12 PM
You could always flip the hoses on the stroke and chopper cylinders--if you do more WB/DC than plastisol, at least.

I don't think that would work with only a rear prox, you would have to trick the PLC.

It still leaves the screen dry, which I think is root of the question. If I'm reading this right you want to flood the screen as the pallets drop to keep it wet in between prints. So print, flood, index, print, repeat.


True--you'd have to put the prox at the other end, and reverse when the table comes up. 
Probably not unusually easy, unless M&R is nice enough to provide 'alternative' code for the controller on that style of press.

Never thought about how hard it would be to flip one of those--but I've never played around with single prox heads before either...



Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: ericheartsu on January 21, 2013, 04:38:48 PM
Instead of guessing and taking stabs in the dark why not call M&R and ask?

i figured i'd ask here, as it's usually filled with valuable information.

I'll take some pictures of the control board when things wind down.
Title: Re: Gauntlet Question
Post by: Binkspot on January 21, 2013, 05:14:23 PM
I was not trying to be a wise ass but a ten minute phone call with the serial number would answer all your questions. But your right this place is a wealth of information.

I may be wrong but I do not think you can flood immediately after print on that machine if that's what you are trying to do. If my memory serves me right the control panel should have a group of switches for each head. A test button, one/two stroke switch and the bottom one should be front/rear switch. The third or bottom switch would be the one to park the print carriage in the front instead of the rear, this is the switch everyone is talking about.