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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: Denis Kolar on January 25, 2013, 11:07:30 AM
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Could R-Tape Applitape be used for covering screen printing pallets.
I still have plenty od Pallet tape, but I was wandering last night when I was removing the old pallet tape and applying the new one. Later I went to compare them, and they look pretty much identical. People that do vinyl and printing could stock only one and I believe that I can get Applitape a bit cheaper for the same size (Actually, quite bit cheaper)
Thanks
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yup. we use some cheap knock off R-tape. It comes off easier and is way cheaper. I can get you the brand, it's from fellors.
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I have used both application tape, and something sold as pallet tape. I'm pretty damn sure that no one is manufacturing a special tape as much as merely re-purposing an existing product.
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Heard directly from an R Tape rep a long time ago their application tape is rebranded for screen suppliers as Palette tape, as for why being double the cost thats on the suppliers.
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I guess I'm not buying the pallet tape any more :) ......
..... but it will take me years to use up this one on manual machine. (Unless I get the automatic one)
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We've used nothing but regular Applitape here for years, never had a problem.
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Those suppliers that are jacking up the price need to be called out publically. Anybody have a problem with that or is there a better way to handle it?
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Transfer Rite ultra is still my favorite. R tape, Conform, and Bron all sucked it as far as I can tell. The two former could be rebranded latter...
The big think that irks me with a lot of the tape, rebranded or not, is that you can't draw a friggin line on it with a ballpoint pen without breaking the liner and making it a pain to pull up.
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Transfer Rite ultra is still my favorite. R tape, Conform, and Bron all sucked it as far as I can tell. The two former could be rebranded latter...
The big think that irks me with a lot of the tape, rebranded or not, is that you can't draw a friggin line on it with a ballpoint pen without breaking the liner and making it a pain to pull up.
I've always used felt or other soft type tip pens.
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Those suppliers that are jacking up the price need to be called out publically. Anybody have a problem with that or is there a better way to handle it?
there you go.. go get em Alan.. :)
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Transfer Rite ultra is still my favorite. R tape, Conform, and Bron all sucked it as far as I can tell. The two former could be rebranded latter...
The big think that irks me with a lot of the tape, rebranded or not, is that you can't draw a friggin line on it with a ballpoint pen without breaking the liner and making it a pain to pull up.
I've always used felt or other soft type tip pens.
I do if they're clean, but they don't play well with tacky/linty platens. >:(
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I have used both application tape, and something sold as pallet tape. I'm pretty damn sure that no one is manufacturing a special tape as much as merely re-purposing an existing product.
Whew, Frog... thank goodness that isn't a Newman product. You get crucified for suggesting something like that about one of their "products". ;)
I'm with Alan... Call 'em out!
We quickly learned they were the same thing and never bought "pallet tape" again.
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I have used both application tape, and something sold as pallet tape. I'm pretty damn sure that no one is manufacturing a special tape as much as merely re-purposing an existing product.
Whew, Frog... thank goodness that isn't a Newman product. You get crucified for suggesting something like that about one of their "products". ;)
I'm with Alan... Call 'em out!
We quickly learned they were the same thing and never bought "pallet tape" again.
Newman has great stuff, but I also think a lot of it is overpriced. The roller frames aren't because you can literally print a billion shirts with one frame and it will still work the same on the second billion, but the other stuff is not as easy to pay for.
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I have used both application tape, and something sold as pallet tape. I'm pretty damn sure that no one is manufacturing a special tape as much as merely re-purposing an existing product.
Whew, Frog... thank goodness that isn't a Newman product. You get crucified for suggesting something like that about one of their "products". ;)
I'm with Alan... Call 'em out!
We quickly learned they were the same thing and never bought "pallet tape" again.
Newman has great stuff, but I also think a lot of it is overpriced. The roller frames aren't because you can literally print a billion shirts with one frame and it will still work the same on the second billion, but the other stuff is not as easy to pay for.
Absolutely, I don't think I'd have any other frames in my shop, unless someone came out with a game changer.
But repurposing things and putting a few thousand percent markup on retail of that item it is a bit much.
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I have used both application tape, and something sold as pallet tape. I'm pretty damn sure that no one is manufacturing a special tape as much as merely re-purposing an existing product.
Whew, Frog... thank goodness that isn't a Newman product. You get crucified for suggesting something like that about one of their "products". ;)
I'm with Alan... Call 'em out!
We quickly learned they were the same thing and never bought "pallet tape" again.
Newman has great stuff, but I also think a lot of it is overpriced. The roller frames aren't because you can literally print a billion shirts with one frame and it will still work the same on the second billion, but the other stuff is not as easy to pay for.
I checked TDS for the one American Biltrite sells as pallet tape, the Transferrite PM12 and it matches their sign product Transferrite 6582.
How are they priced?
Boris
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Dennis you shouldn't keep the tape too long, it gets really hard to work with.
We buy tape from a masking tape supplier that has 1 yd wide rolls and they cut it into the widths we want.
It you have too much tape have it cut into 2 or 3 " widths and use it for closing your screens or your boxes. Don't keep it for years.
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Those suppliers that are jacking up the price need to be called out publically. Anybody have a problem with that or is there a better way to handle it?
Alan: I can't speak for all Suppliers but I can tell you how Nazdar SourceOne handles pricing of these and other supply items. In almost all cases our customer selling price and distributor purchase price is based exclusively on a List Price established by the manufacturer. I can assure you that there are never any cases where anyone at Nazdar SourceOne is sitting around thinking of ways to jack the price up to our customers. With that said, I could see a case where the manufacturers of these products might adopt a different List Price Pricing Structure for their Graphic Application Tapes versus a similar product that is being marketed as a Pallet Protection Tape. One of the reasons that this might occur is that Large Format Screen-Printers and Inkjet Graphic Producers use a much higher volume of these products as transfer tapes and/or graphics protection films than a traditional textile screen-printer would.
It takes about 3 sq./ft. of pallet tape to cover a standard 16”x22” auto press pallet, compared to 32 sq./ft. of application tape to cover a 8’x4’ large format graphic. A lot of screen-printers change their pallet tape out less than once per week, while Large Format Screen-Printers and Inkjet Graphic Producers can produce hundreds and in some cases thousands of graphics per day. The most common pallet tape Nazdar SourceOne sells is the RTAPE4350 PROTEK PALLET in 18”x100YDS that lists for $64.32 or $0.14 per sq./ft., and can be had at a discount by companies purchasing in volume or in case quantities. You use about two linear feet of the 18” wide tape to cover a standard 16”x22” pallet, which works out to about $0.43 per pallet or right about $5.00 to protect a full set of pallets for a 10 Color / 12 Station press.
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We have found "Conform" R-Tape mask is much easier to peel off
than any of the regular or medium tack after on for a month or more.
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I use R Tape Conform also, because I already had it here for vinyl. I've kept using it because it works well.