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screen printing => Waterbase and Discharge => Topic started by: Screened Gear on January 31, 2013, 03:36:27 PM

Title: MATSUI Metallic Binder Base 301C
Post by: Screened Gear on January 31, 2013, 03:36:27 PM

SO i have a job that they want to silver ink. They are Navy shirts and I want to do discharge on them...I want to do discharge on everything now that I have it all dialed in. Do you use this with just agent or do you add this to base with agent. I know you can add pigment but was not sure if you can thin it out with CCI base. Any advice on this would be great.

Title: Re: MATSUI Metallic Binder Base 301C
Post by: Screened Gear on January 31, 2013, 06:07:22 PM

no one uses this stuff? I have seen it on shirts and it looks really good. I want to add just a little grey to it so that the metal flake is there but not too much. They want silver ink.

Title: Re: MATSUI Metallic Binder Base 301C
Post by: JBLUE on January 31, 2013, 06:27:38 PM

I saw it at the show. Looks cool. You can tint the metallic with the colors to get different colors of metallic.

Title: Re: MATSUI Metallic Binder Base 301C
Post by: Screened Gear on January 31, 2013, 06:34:33 PM

Im really looking to find out how much you can thin it out with a colored base. I want to mix some into a grey I mix up so its more of a metal flake then a full metal print. I guess it would be fine.

Title: Re: MATSUI Metallic Binder Base 301C
Post by: JBLUE on January 31, 2013, 07:07:10 PM

The stuff I saw was a small metal flake. When my old Rep asked if I wanted to do glitter I said Fck no. I dont want that crap anywhere in here and then he showed me that it was tintable waterbase. Showed me a bunch of different colors that it could be tinted to. Looked pretty cool.

Title: Re: MATSUI Metallic Binder Base 301C
Post by: Screened Gear on January 31, 2013, 07:08:48 PM

I have some samples here from a few years back. It looks good.

Title: Re: MATSUI Metallic Binder Base 301C
Post by: patfinn on January 31, 2013, 08:06:08 PM

I printed with that a lot. Never discharged it since it was just a waterbase metallic binder. Try doing 2 strokes with a 110 and see if its metallic enough for you.
Or you could do a discharge under base, flash the do the metallic on top and that would be pretty bright.

Title: Re: MATSUI Metallic Binder Base 301C
Post by: brandon on February 02, 2013, 03:20:09 AM

Yup, we use it all the time. Make any tints we want with it. Works great.

Title: Re: MATSUI Metallic Binder Base 301C
Post by: Spreading Ink on February 02, 2013, 03:53:45 AM

Hi Jon,

We use this all the time as well - you cannot discharge it as it will basically turn to water - but you can add a discharge underbase if you feel the print needs it.  Usually it does not though this binder covers really well and if it is left silver rarely needs to be based.

If you tint it gold it will sometime come out better with a base though to keep the gold from looking too green on some black garments, but again this ink will not discharge and won't work properly if you try to actually discharge it.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,

Dave