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screen printing => Screen Making => Topic started by: dirkdiggler on February 04, 2013, 07:01:03 PM
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All the great qualities of WR25 but with twice as fast exposure time and without the doodoo brown color. Its green.
Got samples today and will be testing this week, but I here its badass.
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Do tell more once you've tested it. I'm very interested in this.
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Yes please keep us posted. Burned 10 screens on Friday with the wr25 and it was 400%+ slower than chromablue. Blah.
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I knew this was coming up and glad to see it's out. CCI is really stepping up their game.
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ok, exposed some screens today and printed one job. First, its does expose faster than wr25. About a minute faster on my 3140. Color is blueish green, which is far better than WR25's dookie brown. I had zero problems on press without a hardener, but it was a short run. will tell more when I learn more.
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I used some about 4 months ago. It did fine. Detail was good. Only issue was it exposed in about 50 seconds. With my set up aquasol hv exposes in 18 seconds. My screen cleaning girl did say it was harder to reclaim.
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CCI is sending a gal to test shipping from Cali shd be here by Friday
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Zombie thread....
anyone using this? I am being forced out of CCI HXT and exploring my options....
Looking at CCI only due to availability - LXP the led specific stuff, wr14, wr25.
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We have tried just about everything. We have stuck with WR14 for anything High detail. Its awesome. We have a starlight...it exposes in about 25-30 secs. Rinses out all dots super easy. Then we post expose the living crap out of it otherwise it breaks down. So back on the starlight for another 50 seconds. Two at a time rotating them, then in front of a t5 high bay light.
No more issues with breaking down. On reclaim we spray ink degradent, power wash, let sit for a while to let excess water run off. Then emulsion remover and lightly scrub both sides, let it sit for a minute. Reclaims pretty easy after that.
Best of all you can throw water based ink in it...usually we just print straight plastisol.
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post expose must be the key for that stuff. We tried it and it's ok, but it would breakdown on plasti around 100 prints or so....very frustrating.
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ouch, thanks guys. think I'll avoid it. I am moving from HXT because we add diazo to it, I was having a hell of a time sourcing the diazo but I think I found a solution, so I may not need to switch after all! Still want to try out the LXP but getting a sample is easier said than done for some reason.
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Im telling you man, Murikami T9 sbq. No diazo, no hardener. Just did a bunch of wb jobs this week again, not a single sign of break down. Little post expose turns it into rock solid awesome stencil. The detail it holds is amazing as well. Our halftones have gotten significantly nicer with it as well. It's the bomb!!!
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Do you still need to add a little water to it to get it to coat easier?
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Do you still need to add a little water to it to get it to coat easier?
T9? Not at all. I keep the bucket in use, in the screen room, pretty warm in there. No issues coating at all. Reclaims like a dream as well. I'll only post expose if using for WB/Discharge. The exposure times never change. When we used HXT for WB/Discharge, we had to significantly increase the exposure times to insure a strong screen. The T9 is the real deal for sure. Spot Color Supply stocks it now too.
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I got in a sample when it was in Beta. Really rough to coat with. It did level out why dry... but before that it left big long streaks in the coat. Made me very nervous.
Maybe I should ask RC if they have another sample.
We will be going to Direct to Screen with a stand alone starlight later this year and I want a single emulsion that will do 60 lpi down to a 3% dot consistently but then turn around and do long run HSA/Discharge.
Currently using the Saati PHU, but options are awesome :)
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the phu was a nightmare for us, we gave this T9 a try. Maybe because we are in such a warm/hot area it lowers the viscosity, but so far I think we've gone through about 40 gallons of it and have had no issues. It is really good with the D2A ink in the I-Image ST. Once your exposure times are dialed in, you can hold every dot you print on it. I love the stuff. For us we can go a month without a waterbased order, have them pop up here and there, or a banging month of wb orders. Not having to have 2 emulsions anymore, and having 1 that has super fast exposure times for me is pretty awesome. The small amount of time invested in a post exposure is nothing knowing it won't need a hardener that will make reclaiming a nightmare. Contact Al Buffington, the Murikami guru here on the board, he was instrumental in getting us sample stuff and info for prep and go.
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the phu was a nightmare for us, we gave this T9 a try. Maybe because we are in such a warm/hot area it lowers the viscosity, but so far I think we've gone through about 40 gallons of it and have had no issues. It is really good with the D2A ink in the I-Image ST. Once your exposure times are dialed in, you can hold every dot you print on it. I love the stuff. For us we can go a month without a waterbased order, have them pop up here and there, or a banging month of wb orders. Not having to have 2 emulsions anymore, and having 1 that has super fast exposure times for me is pretty awesome. The small amount of time invested in a post exposure is nothing knowing it won't need a hardener that will make reclaiming a nightmare. Contact Al Buffington, the Murikami guru here on the board, he was instrumental in getting us sample stuff and info for prep and go.
Have you been using diazo with the T9? We use diazo on the samples originally but the cost is so much since its not included. We switched from Aquasal HV and have had great results. I agree that the resolution is great for us using CTS to starlight. Big improvement over the HV.
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No diazo. Not sure how many prints you are looking per set up. But their field testing went beyond 10,000 prints with no diazo, no hardener. We've hit over 2500 prints on a set up with zero sign of wear on the screens.
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I got in a sample when it was in Beta. Really rough to coat with. It did level out why dry... but before that it left big long streaks in the coat. Made me very nervous.
Maybe I should ask RC if they have another sample.
We will be going to Direct to Screen with a stand alone starlight later this year and I want a single emulsion that will do 60 lpi down to a 3% dot consistently but then turn around and do long run HSA/Discharge.
Currently using the Saati PHU, but options are awesome :)
If you want a sample I have a few available, feel free to email or pm if you want to test. Our feedback from customers has been great. One emulsion for everything, but like was mentioned before do post expose for wb discharge inks.
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I'll take one Kevin. I need to grab some stuff next week anway
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Done. I will set one aside for you. Have a great 4th!
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Kevin:
I am in Beaverton Oregon and I can get a sample from the same distributor I get the PHU from. RC Screen Supply - AWESOME people. But I really appreciate your offer!
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lol sorry I saw RC Supply (thought abbreviated River City). That makes complete sense, we would be a few days shipping from Texas.
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Kevin I thought you guys were closed today, but here you are offering help to a fellow board member, well done sir!