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Title: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: blue moon on March 01, 2013, 12:03:03 PM
$50 for a 17" roll!

We have been using this film as our secondary and have yet to find anything wrong with it even at our level (just too busy to do a through test).

Thanx Peter!!!


pierre
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: ZooCity on March 01, 2013, 12:50:34 PM
I saw it. Is it microjet, like fixxons? 
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: blue moon on March 01, 2013, 12:54:52 PM
what's microjet?

it's imagestar product, not sure who makes it for them. 17x100. Waterproof.

pierre
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: mavgraph on March 01, 2013, 01:48:42 PM
If pricing continues to drop like this I might as well shut my doors. It's getting ridiculous. That price is well below my cost. It will work for them though and they will keep customers when the special ends and price returns to normal.

One note: there is nothing wrong with suppliers making a profit. As pricing drops, guys like me go out of business, there are less suppliers, then pricing goes up. Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on March 01, 2013, 01:57:47 PM
If pricing continues to drop like this I might as well shut my doors. It's getting ridiculous. That price is well below my cost. It will work for them though and they will keep customers when the special ends and price returns to normal.

One note: there is nothing wrong with suppliers making a profit. As pricing drops, guys like me go out of business, there are less suppliers, then pricing goes up. Just my thoughts.

Sounds like you need to figure out how to get it cheaper.
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: ebscreen on March 01, 2013, 02:37:03 PM
FILM QUALITY VARIES GREATLY!!!!!
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: ZooCity on March 01, 2013, 02:42:20 PM
FILM QUALITY VARIES GREATLY!!!!!

Yep.  A lot of private label WP film is "microjet", they often forget to remove it from somewhere on the packaging.  Fixxons is microjet and works for our set up so I wouldn't switch to another at any price unless it was similar or I would just be buying myself an hour of messing around with settings with the $14 I'm saving. 

Mav graphics.  That's rough.  You should consider diversifying what you offer.  It would increase the volume of film sales and provide buffer. 
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: royster13 on March 01, 2013, 02:44:13 PM
I have seen discussions on this forum (and others) about starting a supply business and thing that always comes to my mind is how does the little guy compete when they can not buy the same or ship the same as the big guys...It has to be an "uphill" battle.....
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: cbjamel on March 01, 2013, 02:50:30 PM
I just bought Ulano Film 17X100 FOR $113.30. Darn I wish I would have sen that. Could've gotten 2 rolls for the price of one.

Shane
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: ebscreen on March 01, 2013, 02:52:50 PM
I have seen discussions on this forum (and others) about starting a supply business and thing that always comes to my mind is how does the little guy compete when they can not buy the same or ship the same as the big guys...It has to be an "uphill" battle.....


The same could be said for anyone starting any business really. Which is why we should all quit our jobs and just sell. But to who?
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: mavgraph on March 01, 2013, 02:58:15 PM
Their regular price is around $73, which is pretty much in line with the industry. This $50 price must be a loss leader. A friend just tried to buy 200 rolls and it showed not in stock.

Zoo, you are correct. I'm trying to diversify from my speciality of film. However, I still should be able to make money selling film.
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: Homer on March 01, 2013, 03:03:24 PM
Brad, I know when we spoke a while back, I mentioned a "buy back" program for used films. I have cases of the stuff here, old junk film but I hate to toss it out. Offer people a % off per pound of used film or whatever, then take the used film to a recycling plant and recoup some cash....I have NO idea if this is even possible, or a waste of time....just an idea....

start supplying ink for printers too, just another retailer I can weed out....
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: mk162 on March 01, 2013, 03:07:16 PM
I bought 3 rolls of film the other day, 2-13" and 1-17" for $155 total.  So far it's really good, I mean really good.
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: pwalsh on March 01, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
Their regular price is around $73, which is pretty much in line with the industry. This $50 price must be a loss leader. A friend just tried to buy 200 rolls and it showed not in stock.

Brad:  You are correct that this month special offer pricing of $50.00 per roll is a “One-Time” non-sustainable special offer.   You are also correct that the regular price for a roll of 17” x 100’ ImageStar film was $73.00, but I can confirm that the regular price will be right around $60.00 per roll after the March promotion is over.   
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: beanie357 on March 01, 2013, 07:07:37 PM
Saw it. Ordered a dozen.
Now, about that twenty buck a gallon Wilflex sale...............
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: GraphicDisorder on March 01, 2013, 07:08:03 PM
Not personally using Nazdar, so I can't specifically comment on Nazdar quality.  But what is it with the notion around here that if it costs less it means it isn't as good.

That's ridiculous if some of you assume that.  It could certainly be true, but doesn't automatically mean so.
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: pwalsh on March 01, 2013, 07:22:42 PM
Their regular price is around $73, which is pretty much in line with the industry. This $50 price must be a loss leader. A friend just tried to buy 200 rolls and it showed not in stock.


Brad:  Unfortunately most screen-print industry suppliers are finding that  inkjet screen-positive film has become an extreme commodity product. Nazdar SourceOne’s regular price of $73.00 for a 17” x 100’ roll of our ImageStar inkjet screen positive film had become non-competitive in the current market conditions causing us to look at ways to reduce our selling price. 

Nazdar SourceOne met with our US based Manufacturer/Supplier (not Microjet) and made commitments to purchase the IMS film in greater quantities to reduce our cost so we could deliver a lower price to our customers. In order to promote this new price positioning we are offering promotional pricing of $50.00 per roll of 17” x 100’ ImageStar film for the month of March that will revert to a regular price of right around $60.00 per roll after the promotion is over.   

On another issue I’m not  sure who told your friend that tried to buy 200 rolls of film that Nazdar SourceOne was out of stock.  Please have your friend contact me directly either with a PM though my profile at www.TheShirtBoard.com (http://www.TheShirtBoard.com), or they can email me at pwalsh@nazdar.com and I will get them taken care of.  (Not that it matters but can you confirm if your friend is a screen-printer or a film reseller?)
Title: Re: Holy CRAP! Did anybody else catch the film special Nazdar is offering?
Post by: Spreading Ink on March 01, 2013, 11:01:19 PM
I saw the sale price and e-mail flyer.  I forget what the cost on a 44" x 100 roll was (all we use) but I think it was about the same on sale as what we normally pay (we use a lot of film though and will typically go through 2-3 rolls of 44" film in a week).  We do negotiate for this pricing though and use a lot of film.  As for the quality of the film - I am currently working through linearization and some front end tweaks - so we shall see.