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screen printing => Ink and Chemicals => Topic started by: Gilligan on March 28, 2013, 06:44:31 PM

Title: Poly Charcoal performance shirts... will they bleed?
Post by: Gilligan on March 28, 2013, 06:44:31 PM
Badly?

Was hoping to get away with at least 50/50 white vs poly white ink.
Title: Re: Poly Charcoal performance shirts... will they bleed?
Post by: Frog on March 28, 2013, 06:55:43 PM
Probably no one sure answer.

White ink? Probably require poly ink or at least a low temp 50/50 (or additive)

On the other hand, bleeding from black fleece into white ink is usually barely noticeable because it's not as apparent as the pink one gets from Red shirts.
Title: Re: Poly Charcoal performance shirts... will they bleed?
Post by: JBLUE on March 28, 2013, 08:06:27 PM
Depending on the brand they will bleed. Leslie Jordan is one in that color to be aware of. Use poly and it will be cheaper than replacing the order.

Title: Re: Poly Charcoal performance shirts... will they bleed?
Post by: mk162 on March 28, 2013, 09:47:57 PM
for things like this I use Onestroke Smart white.  there is no poly ink that is better...period...except silicone
Title: Re: Poly Charcoal performance shirts... will they bleed?
Post by: Gilligan on March 28, 2013, 11:02:19 PM
It's for some softball "jerseys" it's a small order and they obviously want a "thin" print, but they have been made aware that it might be thicker than the black on red and silver I have done for them in the past.
Title: Re: Poly Charcoal performance shirts... will they bleed?
Post by: Frog on March 28, 2013, 11:48:32 PM
Considering your concerns, and the size of the order,  may be a good candidate for a nice thin heat seal film if the design is cooperative.
Title: Re: Poly Charcoal performance shirts... will they bleed?
Post by: Sbrem on March 29, 2013, 09:58:19 AM
Considering your concerns, and the size of the order,  may be a good candidate for a nice thin heat seal film if the design is cooperative.

I'm with Andy on that, if it's a simple, easy to weed design, then probably the best way to go. They come out great...

Steve
Title: Re: Poly Charcoal performance shirts... will they bleed?
Post by: Denis Kolar on March 29, 2013, 10:08:14 AM
Silicone?
Title: Re: Poly Charcoal performance shirts... will they bleed?
Post by: Gilligan on March 29, 2013, 10:41:48 AM
How does silicone lay down?  Is it think like a poly white?

I know it will be thicker than black, black can be printed "less than opaque" and still appear opaque because shadows help.  Whereas white is the opposite, shadows make things worse, hence you need to make sure you are 100% opaque.

We will be laying down vinyl for the numbers but avoiding it for the front and sponsors due to the heavyness.... then again, I might be shooting myself in the foot with the white on dark vs dark on light that we have done for them in the past. :(
Title: Re: Poly Charcoal performance shirts... will they bleed?
Post by: Denis Kolar on March 29, 2013, 10:50:53 AM
It feels really thin, like it is part of the shirt.