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General => General Discussion and ??? => Topic started by: Mr Tees!! on June 28, 2011, 12:24:08 PM
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...I have an odd request. I am trying to get a copy of one of the exploded/technical diagrams from the owners manual . I would like to use it in the background of a promo/giveaway shirt for the shop. Anyone have it? I would sure appreciate it if anyone did.
...OR any other technical-type drawing of a press? I have the manual for my Diamondback, but each of the technical drawings in it only shows a section of the machine. I am looking for something a bit more complete.
...email me if you can help out. mr.teez@hotmail.com
...thanks gang!!
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Have you tried contacting M&R?
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Two things:
1. ask M&R for it
2. Find out if it is allowed to be used in the application you wish. You may have copyright issues.
And, no Chameleon here, but how about a Leopard Gecko?
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This is a award winning shirt design from Forward Printing in California...Maybe the same idea your going for...?
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...I sent Rich a PM over at DS a while back, but he never got back to me. I assumed maybe he was a lil gunshy to reply to ANYONE at DS, and rightly so. Rich, If you are seeing this, I have no nefarious motives...I just wanna design a cool shirt for my shop! Thats all, I promise!!
...Yeah, the Forward shirt is admittedly kinda what inspired it. I know its not too cool to jack someone elses original idea, but Im not claiming it to be my idea, I just wanna do a cool shop shirt. :-[
...On a side note, (Frog), I hade a pair of REAL chameleons as pets several years ago. Cool little critters!!
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Even as a tadpole I must have been a mite twisted because after hearing that they change colors to match their surroundings, I put mine on my plaid shirt! :o
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We've got a '98 and I checked the owner's manual and didn't see a composite exploded view. There are exploded views of several assemblies but not the whole machine. Maybe a later year owner's manual or one of the folks at the M&R site.
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I'll attach the manual as .pdf when I get to the store office later today.
I don't really think this other shirt is all that original to begin with, it's an exploded diagram of a press with a text logo in spot colors....ohhhhhhhhh ::) Award winning, really? Maybe I'm missing something that isn't coming across in the picture, I've seen they're other one with the galaxy and that one looked pretty rad.
I say use the diagram and make a cooler one for yer shop.
I'm going to make an exploded epson for mine. I know that guts of those printers better than any press.
And btw, if you want something like a manual from M&R, call M&R. Don't pm the ceo. Jesus.
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I'll attach the manual as .pdf when I get to the store office later today.
I don't really think this other shirt is all that original to begin with, it's an exploded diagram of a press with a text logo in spot colors....ohhhhhhhhh ::) Award winning, really? Maybe I'm missing something that isn't coming across in the picture, I've seen they're other one with the galaxy and that one looked pretty rad.
I say use the diagram and make a cooler one for yer shop.
I'm going to make an exploded epson for mine. I know that guts of those printers better than any press.
And btw, if you want something like a manual from M&R, call M&R. Don't pm the ceo. Jesus.
...Thanks Zoo. Yeah, Im not tryin to win any awards either, I just have a slow week this week (finally YAY!) and wanted to try out some new techniques.
...I didnt call the company because I dont actually OWN a Chameleon. I didnt want to ask them to do something for nothing. I though Rich might actually be the best choice to contact, as he seems to make himself openly accessible to anyone over on DS (well, ALMOST anyone).... :-X
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In your case it might be possible to simply scan or screen shot just the elements you want and combine and edit all together.
I would think Rich would love to see something along them lines done with his equipment.
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The M&R service dept. has always been very prompt in sending me manuals even
to equipment I don't own. (details for considering purchase etc.) Just sayin...
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...Yeah, the Forward shirt is admittedly kinda what inspired it. I know its not too cool to jack someone elses original idea, but Im not claiming it to be my idea, I just wanna do a cool shop shirt. :-[
I was not trying to call you out on copying. I just wanted to use it as an example. Its a cool idea and looks good for a shirt design. There are a lot of ways to do it so it will look cool and not exactly the same. Good luck.
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...Oh I know, no offense taken at all. I think in a way I am calling myself out on it. It would be just my luck that I would show the finished product here and someone would say "hey its been done!" OR maybe im just a total freekin headcase.... :o
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Why do a shirt that has the schematic of the equipment that you use. That’s like a car company giving you a schematic of a waterjet or laser cuter. (if they are used to make a car). Thinking you will buy more cars. Do a shirt with all the styles of prints you can do. Maybe a shirt with one design but have the design cut up into waterbase ink, plastisol and all matalics. I think that shirt if done right would show your skills. Trust me I understand design. A great looking shirt can make sales. I am just saying make a great looking shirt that is also a sales tool. Just my cents...
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It's funny that the forward shirt has a M&R manual on it when they use a MHM auto. How does that work?
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Forward Printing started with a Chameleon and then got the MHM. They still have the Chameleon. I don't even know these guys. I just read a few articles that they wrote. Here is a pic of their shop with a Chameleon upper left.
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Hey folks. Yes, this is an old thread, but I thought I'd chime in. We started as a garage shop in 2004, then moved into a live work space a couple years later, then out of that live work when we bought the MHM auto. For the first few years we were a manual shop only, and that's when that Chameleon shirt was produced, and we love that bullet proof Chameleon press too. The shirt has other elements that can't be seen in the picture. Relabel, back print, and a patch type thing on the lower front seam... The spot color logo over the schematic is a faux applique print using puff and suede additive, and the black stitching around the edges was also puffed on top of that puff suede logo print and meant to look and feel like thread or string, relabel was foil... And that schematic was just straight discharge, and if I am not mistaken, it was one of the first times we used discharge. So, when we entered that design in the awards, we were a manual only shop and we entered in the manual category... The shirt was intended to be geared towards the industry, and it got the attention of the judges, so it served it's purpose and then some. Not to mention, I still have two colorways of it and some long sleeves that I still wear, and we printed about 150 of them if I remember correctly for promotional giveaways to potential customer across the country...
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Nice print!!! Just a FYI to anyone needing M&R drawings,etc please e-mail me direct as I do not see every post and at times do not even have the opportunity to visit a site for weeks. I have no problem with anyone that is a customer using our files to help their cause.