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Title: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on May 08, 2013, 08:36:52 PM
Hey Y'all,
I was saying awhile ago we do a ton of metal shirts and the like. I was going to start a metal themed thread but we really do all sorts of bands being in Seattle. So anyway, I attached a few fun ones. Cruciamentum from the UK for their upcoming US tour. Two color discharge. Pretty cool detail if you can make out what is going on! Skeletons and one of those "slightly" hard to read logos. Hahaha. And Ever So Android from Seattle. Really cool three color discharge. Everything wet on wet of course.

Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on May 08, 2013, 08:42:21 PM
Oh, and here is some more metal and rock-n-roll. All discharge. I swear that is why all the bands love us here. But Lantern (yeah, it says that in the logo!) from Finland, and a Saints of Damnation close up. And some cool Anhedonist shirts as well. The close up is pretty cool considering they ripped the art off from the web and we have to make it work with some not the best half tones. But a cool shirt due to the discharge.

So besides metal do we have any hip hop or classical music or blue grass or any shirts out there? We can't be the only music guys on here...
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Spreading Ink on May 09, 2013, 01:21:27 AM
Hey Brandon we have done quite a few band shirts through the years.   SOJA, Pretty Lights, Bassnectar, Dave Matthews Band, Alabama Shakes, Alice Cooper, As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, and multiple different festival shirts as well through the year including Electric Zoo (NY), Forecastle (TN - I think) and just last week rush orders for Bottlerock 2013 in Napa.  We also do some different metal band shirts for groups in NorCal too - sorry too many to remember them all and don't have any pictures here at home, but we have Killswitch Engage in our banner on the home page of our website (all over print).

Bands can be good but they are almost always rush and can be challenging to get in and out in the time rames required.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on May 09, 2013, 07:42:27 AM
Cannibal Corpse - We printed this last October.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Sbrem on May 09, 2013, 09:06:56 AM
Hey Brandon we have done quite a few band shirts through the years.   SOJA, Pretty Lights, Bassnectar, Dave Matthews Band, Alabama Shakes, Alice Cooper, As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, and multiple different festival shirts as well through the year including Electric Zoo (NY), Forecastle (TN - I think) and just last week rush orders for Bottlerock 2013 in Napa.  We also do some different metal band shirts for groups in NorCal too - sorry too many to remember them all and don't have any pictures here at home, but we have Killswitch Engage in our banner on the home page of our website (all over print).

Bands can be good but they are almost always rush and can be challenging to get in and out in the time rames required.

Mike D'Antonio, the bass player in Killswitch Engage, grew up in the town next to us. We did some of his earlier bands as well as the first few KE shirts. Then the marketing dept. took over and they went elsewhere as the band took off. Mike did all his own art, and we'd discuss how to get it on the shirts. A long time ago now...

Steve
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: alan802 on May 09, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
Nice print on all of them, and the Cannibal Corpse one is too, but not something I would want to look at if you know what I mean, kind of disgusting but if you're in to that...to each their own.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Denis Kolar on May 09, 2013, 09:19:11 AM
Cannibal Corpse - We printed this last October.

Well, I see than nothing changed in the last 20 years (I meant with the band :) )
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Denis Kolar on May 09, 2013, 09:28:56 AM
Here are the two shirts that I did for a local metal band CellBound.
First one is one hit white, front only.
The second one is a 4 color back, white, pinkish, blue and top white. That was the back, front had only the bands logo in white.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on May 09, 2013, 09:36:09 AM
unfortunately a somewhat heavy hand print, but we didnt have time to fix.  As Spreading Ink said -  "Bands can be good but they are almost always rush and can be challenging to get in and out in the time frames required."

Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on May 09, 2013, 01:26:41 PM
heres one from april...
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on May 09, 2013, 03:48:16 PM
here is a cool little 5 color tote we did for our good friends Laura Stevenson!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on May 09, 2013, 03:50:26 PM
this is one of the first multi color discharge jobs we did. i think it was 5 colors.
sorry for the blurry camera phone pics
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on May 09, 2013, 05:27:35 PM
All awesome prints! I knew for some reason the "band" thing would bust out some cool designs. Love the Cannibal Corpse shirt. Hahahaha, seen them a few times. You just have to experience them live to get the full effect. Didn't you also print those OverKill shirts that were on here a few weeks ago? Those were really, really nice!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Screened Gear on May 09, 2013, 05:47:35 PM
Puking skulls are always cool.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on August 06, 2013, 12:25:39 AM
Hey,
I haven't posted too much lately as I have my hands full with training all the new employees (and old ones) before I leave to New Orleans in Sept. This was a cool shirt as it was a last minute rush job of almost a couple hundred and the only press we had open was an old manual in the corner. The M&R BlueMax 2 to be exact! That's an old one. Anyway, new guy's draw dropped when one of the printers had it up and done in around an hour. Discharge white and gray, no flashing wet on wet. Super soft and pops well. And that discharge is over three days old as well. I hate waste! Been excited lately for all the new discharge coming out with long shelf life after activated. That ink used on this print is of the supposedly "24 hour" variety. I found ways around that a long time ago.

Anyone else have any cool band shirt pics to put up?
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on August 06, 2013, 11:50:19 AM
a three color discharge print we did for a local metal band
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: kingscreen on August 06, 2013, 05:31:25 PM
4 color simulated. We did a 5 color DC version on black tees a couple month later.

(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530845_10151176049671396_1780157040_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: screenxpress on August 06, 2013, 09:45:37 PM
The flash from the phone flash added quite a lot of white but this was from my son's CD release a few years back.



Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on August 07, 2013, 08:38:45 AM
here is one we printed with magnacolour discharge inks
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: tonypep on August 07, 2013, 09:26:05 AM
Nice Diz. Thought Brad would never go for DC. How are you handling the waste? Hopefully by the end of the year we'll see the long life DC products in full production. We will need to see if it is compatable with our color formulations however. Magna is a great product.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on August 07, 2013, 09:43:27 AM
Nice Diz. Thought Brad would never go for DC. How are you handling the waste? Hopefully by the end of the year we'll see the long life DC products in full production. We will need to see if it is compatable with our color formulations however. Magna is a great product.

customer specified discharge.  we had to find a discharge system in 3 days!  chose magna for availability (bought from nazdar).

long life discharge products will be great  - i hate having leftover ink = money wasted.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: JBLUE on August 07, 2013, 09:44:48 PM
4 color simulated. We did a 5 color DC version on black tees a couple month later.

(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530845_10151176049671396_1780157040_n.jpg)

Dig this one. Got any specs on it?
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on August 07, 2013, 11:08:47 PM
Not a tshirt, but some cool LP sleeves we did today

(http://distilleryimage7.ak.instagram.com/f43915ecffc811e2852322000a9e288c_7.jpg)
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: kingscreen on August 08, 2013, 08:57:59 AM
4 color simulated. We did a 5 color DC version on black tees a couple month later.

([url]https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530845_10151176049671396_1780157040_n.jpg[/url])


Dig this one. Got any specs on it?


Thanks! All WB. 45 LPI. 200 for all. We used the same screens for the DC version on Black tees. Here's a close up shot:
(http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/a649d0dced5511e1a97a22000a1cbf16_7.jpg)
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on August 08, 2013, 01:21:29 PM
Everyone has some cool stuff on here. In my opinion band art work is always the most fun for the guys on the floor. Or at least they seem to like it around here!
Title: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: sweetts on August 08, 2013, 08:18:23 PM
Not a tshirt, but some cool LP sleeves we did today

([url]http://distilleryimage7.ak.instagram.com/f43915ecffc811e2852322000a9e288c_7.jpg[/url])

What's a LP? Lol


RT Screen Designs
www.rtscreendesigns.com
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on August 09, 2013, 12:41:03 AM
What's a LP? Hahahaha. Alright, I still buy a lot of 7"s and LP's. Three turn tables. Going to suck to move all of them to New Orleans in several weeks!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: noiseloops on August 09, 2013, 12:50:54 AM
What would be good ink to uss on them LP covers? Speedball ones good enuff?

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Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Rockers on August 16, 2013, 05:57:47 AM
For some upcoming Indie J-Pop artist. Doing some tote bags with the same design tomorrow. Different colorway and size though.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on January 04, 2014, 06:10:16 PM
So I am going to be bringing back this thread again an again since now my new shop is open and the majority of all my clients are now the music business and mostly the "heavier" stuff.

Super simple jobs here - all discharge and extremely easy. All I do now is discharge / water base pretty much unless the client requests plastisol. The next few weeks I have a ton of stuff coming up with sim process and multi colored shirts and placement so it will get much more interesting. Right now it has been easy jobs and reprints flying out the doors.

But the pics attached are IRKALLIAN ORACLE from Sweden, LVCIFYRE from the UK, and then a couple of Inferno logo shirt pics.

And I need to start taking better pictures!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: kingscreen on January 04, 2014, 09:13:38 PM
Here's a cool one we did a few weeks back. DC UB + CMYK.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: GaryG on January 05, 2014, 12:49:40 AM
Nice effect!
Which white UB brand?
Flash after UB or other colors?
Regular CMYK plastisols?
Thx
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: PhilR on January 05, 2014, 06:42:18 AM
This is probably one of my best prints of the last year, and the band came back for more twice. I love it when the artists understand what the printer needs, makes my life so much easier. The first print was all waterbase DC. I had to mix the colours by eye.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: kingscreen on January 05, 2014, 09:58:19 AM
Nice effect!
Which white UB brand?
Flash after UB or other colors?
Regular CMYK plastisols?
Thx

CCI 80/20 Base/White with Union Tru-Tone on top. No flash.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on January 05, 2014, 12:53:19 PM
here is one we did a while back for an Australian band. 3 color discharge. pretty simple, looked fantastic. Printed on Fruit of the Loom tee I believe.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on January 05, 2014, 01:07:16 PM
Nice prints everyone. For some reason metal and punk bands always have the best art / shirt designs in my opinion. I guess it just appeals to my inner child hahaha.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ol man on January 06, 2014, 08:02:22 AM
Here's a cool one we did a few weeks back. DC UB + CMYK.

very nice, king screen.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on January 14, 2014, 10:34:25 PM
More metal shirts haha! All discharge of course, wow no flashing. The one thing I noticed on this order is that I have not worked with the Hanes brand in awhile and now I remember why. Oil stains everywhere and sewn all messed up. Had to replace here and there with FOL.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Rockers on January 14, 2014, 10:38:03 PM
Have to do shirts for Havok and Vreid tomorrow:)
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on January 14, 2014, 10:41:22 PM
Have to do shirts for Havok and Vreid tomorrow:)

That's awesome! I'm jealous. I did just do Weedeater though. Simple one and three color discharge. Yes, that is an eagle scooping up a monkey smoking a doobie haha
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Screened Gear on January 14, 2014, 10:55:44 PM
Nice work Brandon. Good to see your doing well. I really wish I could get more band stuff in the door. It fun stuff to print.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Rockers on January 14, 2014, 11:06:06 PM
Some simple stuff we did just before Christmas.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ZooCity on January 15, 2014, 01:25:36 AM
Weedeater is one of my favorite bands. They played here this Summer right near one of our best trout streams, with Pentagram head lining no less. That was a real good day for this guy. I got the shirt with a hummingbird feeding out of a bottle of Robitussin.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on January 15, 2014, 10:19:09 AM
Weedeater is one of my favorite bands. They played here this Summer right near one of our best trout streams, with Pentagram head lining no less. That was a real good day for this guy. I got the shirt with a hummingbird feeding out of a bottle of Robitussin.

That does sound fun Chris! Hummingbird with a bottle of Robitussin? Hahaha I have not seen that design!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: PhilR on February 01, 2014, 02:52:29 PM
Just pulled these the other day, only my second ever CMYK print with a DC underbase. I agreed to do them as a test press (for a non-refundable setup fee which would be deducted from a full order) as the band wanted to be sure of the colour reproduction. I think they came out pretty good myself. The grey shirt has a slight green cast which I realised was being caused by over saturation of the yellow so this was a pretty good learning opportunity. On the white I went with a single pull of yellow and a heavier cyan deposit.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on February 03, 2014, 09:47:11 PM
These two are just too funny not to post! Both discharge of course
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ZooCity on February 03, 2014, 10:03:07 PM
Brandon, you print nice shirts for a lot of bands in the genres I listen to most, lots of doom and stoner metal, et. al.  Great job.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on February 03, 2014, 10:16:32 PM
Brandon, i did the stickers for that tour!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on February 03, 2014, 10:18:49 PM
Here is some that we did recently:

8 color sim. process, nothing fancy.
(http://distilleryimage11.ak.instagram.com/a64918a4877d11e38302122de019cc27_8.jpg)

2 color waterbased ink, made to look like a spray painted stencil
(http://distilleryimage10.ak.instagram.com/2331909a87c811e3a2410ea5f30ea1ee_8.jpg)
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on February 03, 2014, 10:20:44 PM
Some simple stuff we did just before Christmas.

my friends toured with the bennies not to long ago. they said they were the best band.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on February 03, 2014, 10:24:41 PM
Thanks Chris! Sooner or later we will meet up and talk shop and riffage haha.

Eric, we lucked out they are here in NOLA rehearsing and did a last minute show last night so we busted out some merch for them. Place was sold out packed with just word of mouth. You do stickers? Nice..... I will be in touch as I have no desire to do those
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on February 03, 2014, 10:25:14 PM
Thanks Chris! Sooner or later we will meet up and talk shop and riffage haha.

Eric, we lucked out they are here in NOLA rehearsing and did a last minute show last night so we busted out some merch for them. Place was sold out packed with just word of mouth. You do stickers? Nice..... I will be in touch as I have no desire to do those

yeah email me sometime, i'm sure we know a bunch of the same people!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on February 04, 2014, 08:39:56 AM
over the weekend a fan of Amon Amarth noticed that a few of the band members were at a Bruins hockey game.  the fan took a picture and posted it on Reddit. 

this will be their third order for the hockey jerseys - 132 printing today... 



http://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/1wqurb/swedish_metal_band_amon_amarth_at_todays_bruins/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/1wqurb/swedish_metal_band_amon_amarth_at_todays_bruins/)
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on February 04, 2014, 10:59:03 AM
That's awesome! Did you print those?
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on February 04, 2014, 11:04:42 AM
That's awesome! Did you print those?

we printed the Amon Amarth hockey jerseys for their tour. as soon as people saw this on reddit the band sold most of what they had so we just printed more (132 jerseys) today. 

we used 18x28 platens on our gauntlet  - and lots of Union Polywhite... 

Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on February 04, 2014, 11:15:24 AM
"and lots of Union Polywhite"

Hahaha, I bet!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Denis Kolar on February 04, 2014, 11:17:37 AM
That's awesome! Did you print those?

we printed the Amon Amarth hockey jerseys for their tour. as soon as people saw this on reddit the band sold most of what they had so we just printed more (132 jerseys) today. 

we used 18x28 platens on our gauntlet  - and lots of Union Polywhite... 



You hope they do not hear about sublimation :)
They can achieve the same look without that plastisol shield on the front
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: tonypep on February 04, 2014, 11:31:04 AM
Doubt that would work on black poly but not an expert. All the sub we did was always on white. The black would be on the transfer
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Denis Kolar on February 04, 2014, 11:35:43 AM
Doubt that would work on black poly but not an expert. All the sub we did was always on white. The black would be on the transfer

Everything would be sublimated and then sewn together
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: tonypep on February 04, 2014, 11:38:57 AM
Correct.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on February 04, 2014, 12:09:54 PM
Doubt that would work on black poly but not an expert. All the sub we did was always on white. The black would be on the transfer

Everything would be sublimated and then sewn together

when bands are on tour we print the number of shirts that they need for a specific timeframe.  sometimes we will get an order and have it out the next day.   if we had to wait for a cut and sew the tour would be over before we could get them the shirts.

Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on February 04, 2014, 12:12:22 PM
Doubt that would work on black poly but not an expert. All the sub we did was always on white. The black would be on the transfer

Everything would be sublimated and then sewn together

when bands are on tour we print the number of shirts that they need for a specific timeframe.  sometimes we will get an order and have it out the next day.   if we had to wait for a cut and sew the tour would be over before we could get them the shirts.

Exactly. Nothing like the next day. Especially when it is half way across country.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: tonypep on February 04, 2014, 12:27:44 PM
Thats how JSR rolls pretty much every day. They ship all over the world.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Zelko-4-EVA on February 04, 2014, 01:09:05 PM
Doubt that would work on black poly but not an expert. All the sub we did was always on white. The black would be on the transfer

Everything would be sublimated and then sewn together

when bands are on tour we print the number of shirts that they need for a specific timeframe.  sometimes we will get an order and have it out the next day.   if we had to wait for a cut and sew the tour would be over before we could get them the shirts.

Exactly. Nothing like the next day. Especially when it is half way across country.


for example:

a few weeks ago customer wants 3000 shirts, 7 different shirts (mixture of short sleeve tee, ladies tee, ladies tank, zip front hooded sweatshirts). 8 color front, 5 color back for the festival on saturday in florida.  - art comes in on thursday, spelling is incorrect on the front, fixed by thursday noon and shirts start printing by 1pm.  back art comes in and it also has a spelling error.  we correct the art, print the backs and the job is finished by 3:20pm on friday and ready for overnight shipping from New Hampshire to get to the customer on saturday.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on February 04, 2014, 01:12:26 PM
Doubt that would work on black poly but not an expert. All the sub we did was always on white. The black would be on the transfer

Everything would be sublimated and then sewn together

when bands are on tour we print the number of shirts that they need for a specific timeframe.  sometimes we will get an order and have it out the next day.   if we had to wait for a cut and sew the tour would be over before we could get them the shirts.

Exactly. Nothing like the next day. Especially when it is half way across country.


for example:

a few weeks ago customer wants 3000 shirts, 7 different shirts (mixture of short sleeve tee, ladies tee, ladies tank, zip front hooded sweatshirts). 8 color front, 5 color back for the festival on saturday in florida.  - art comes in on thursday, spelling is incorrect on the front, fixed by thursday noon and shirts start printing by 1pm.  back art comes in and it also has a spelling error.  we correct the art, print the backs and the job is finished by 3:20pm on friday and ready for overnight shipping from New Hampshire to get to the customer on saturday.

this is the story of our business. every. freaking. day.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ebscreen on February 04, 2014, 01:12:44 PM
UPS/FedEx/DHL loves procrastinating/late shirt orders.

We just overnighted several hundred pieces to Van Morrison in England. For the second time.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: tonypep on February 04, 2014, 02:01:14 PM
Yeah that John is like a shipping wizard or something. A lot of pressure up there but thats one reason they get the work. Also killer art. Sim process on blacks all day every day. Don't miss being in that building though.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on February 10, 2014, 05:19:01 PM
Simple one color water base metallic print. Don't even bother trying to make out the text. It's a metal band. Good one, but don't worry about it.

Anyway, the pics do not do justice to the softness of the metallic print.  Besides printing on the Gildan 2000's they went on super thin Bella's and plastisol would have not been right. Power to the water base metallics!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on February 10, 2014, 05:19:58 PM
Simple one color water base metallic print. Don't even bother trying to make out the text. It's a metal band. Good one, but don't worry about it.

Anyway, the pics do not do justice to the softness of the metallic print.  Besides printing on the Gildan 2000's they went on super thin Bella's and plastisol would have not been right. Power to the water base metallics!

tell me more about this ink. how did you get it to work on black? ub? discharge?
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on February 10, 2014, 05:22:05 PM
Sorry, having phone trouble. Here is the detail
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on February 10, 2014, 05:24:29 PM
Simple one color water base metallic print. Don't even bother trying to make out the text. It's a metal band. Good one, but don't worry about it.

Anyway, the pics do not do justice to the softness of the metallic print.  Besides printing on the Gildan 2000's they went on super thin Bella's and plastisol would have not been right. Power to the water base metallics!

tell me more about this ink. how did you get it to work on black? ub? discharge?

Oh heck no. Do not, I repeat, do not put discharge under metallic water base. S thread or LX thread.  Works wonders. Hey man, I need to get in touch with you anyway. You free tomorrow to chat on the phone? I can call when your not busy. If that is such a thing haha. Let me know. Thanks!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ericheartsu on February 10, 2014, 05:27:26 PM
Simple one color water base metallic print. Don't even bother trying to make out the text. It's a metal band. Good one, but don't worry about it.

Anyway, the pics do not do justice to the softness of the metallic print.  Besides printing on the Gildan 2000's they went on super thin Bella's and plastisol would have not been right. Power to the water base metallics!

tell me more about this ink. how did you get it to work on black? ub? discharge?

Oh heck no. Do not, I repeat, do not put discharge under metallic water base. S thread or LX thread.  Works wonders. Hey man, I need to get in touch with you anyway. You free tomorrow to chat on the phone? I can call when your not busy. If that is such a thing haha. Let me know. Thanks!

ha yeah i can make time, it's no big deal!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: tonypep on February 11, 2014, 06:38:09 AM
My guess would be Matsui metallic
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: Colin on February 11, 2014, 09:44:35 AM
Just started playing with the Matsui metallics.  Awesome stuff!

Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on February 11, 2014, 10:16:51 AM
My guess would be Matsui metallic

Bingo!
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: mk162 on February 11, 2014, 10:48:59 AM
what happens when you put discharge under water based metallic?  how about discharge under plastisol metallic?
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on February 11, 2014, 10:53:31 AM
what happens when you put discharge under water based metallic?  how about discharge under plastisol metallic?

I am not a chemist so I can't answer with a technical answer but it falls apart. Something in the metallic wb doesn't like the discharge or the other way around. For plastisol metallics I am not sure as I have not touched that stuff in years. Good question
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ebscreen on February 11, 2014, 12:08:21 PM
Lookin nice!

What WB metallics are you using? We have the Matsui Silver, and have tinted it to various colors,
but anything gold we've tried doesn't look that nice.
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: brandon on February 11, 2014, 01:02:21 PM
Yes, it is Matsui Silver. I love how you can tint it whatever you want and easy. We use LX and S mesh for printing it. Great results and low pressure
Title: Re: The Band Shirt Thread
Post by: ebscreen on February 11, 2014, 01:45:36 PM
Haha, jeez. Pays to read the previous pages sometimes.
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Post by: Screened Gear on February 11, 2014, 02:03:48 PM
Yes, it is Matsui Silver. I love how you can tint it whatever you want and easy. We use LX and S mesh for printing it. Great results and low pressure

I did a shirt for a customer that only wanted a sparkle not a full shinny color. So I mixed the Matsui silver about 30-40% to 60% D-base that was tinted grey. Turned out nice. Not overly shinny but when the sun hits it it sparkles.
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Post by: Evo on February 11, 2014, 02:06:02 PM
These prints are from a couple years ago when I had my own shop. This stuff has since been farmed out elsewhere.


Om, "Durga" print. This is a re-creation of a 5 color poster that had a split fountain. I used discharge orange and yellow fading into each other with a 100% to 20% halftone up and down to recreate the split fountain. Also, a light blue (regular wb) on top of the orange and yellow to get some secondary and tertiary colors. (there are some browns, tans, greens, etc in there but they didn't show up in the pic)
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Post by: Evo on February 11, 2014, 02:09:58 PM
Sleep "Sphinx" print.

This was another t-shirt adaptation of a poster.

The top orange is a very coarse halftone (like 35lpi) printed with Matsui metallic mixed with orange PC, fading into a discharge golden yellow. (I think it was PMS 116)

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Post by: Evo on February 11, 2014, 02:12:58 PM
Sleep "Planetour" jersey.

Halftone black, green and spot black.

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Post by: Evo on February 11, 2014, 02:14:38 PM
Om, "Sadhak" shirt.

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Post by: ericheartsu on February 11, 2014, 02:17:44 PM
Man, Jason's stuff has always wowed me.
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Post by: brandon on February 11, 2014, 03:00:12 PM
Hey Jason,

Great stuff. I remember all of those shirts haha. Nice. So you are working at another shop in between tours I guess? Welcome back Sir!
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Post by: PhilR on February 11, 2014, 06:16:29 PM
One of my bandmates is crazy for Om. This is her bass amp. :p
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Post by: ZooCity on February 11, 2014, 06:23:30 PM
We've ran Matsui Silver and it's needed a very low mesh, like 135/48 or 110/71, been a real bear and end print hasn't been much better than plastisol for hand.  I think we need to use modifiers like softener and penetrant to get it rolling right and that was probably the issue.

Jason, where can a man get himself a Sleep shirt these days?  Great work as always.
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Post by: Evo on February 11, 2014, 06:47:29 PM
We've ran Matsui Silver and it's needed a very low mesh, like 135/48 or 110/71, been a real bear and end print hasn't been much better than plastisol for hand.  I think we need to use modifiers like softener and penetrant to get it rolling right and that was probably the issue.


I think I was running it through 125's. Tension is important, keep the mesh wide open or use S-thread type mesh. The Matsui softener works wonders with it, as well as a little water.
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Post by: Colin on February 12, 2014, 12:01:22 AM
That's really odd Chris.

I ran Matsui Silver last month.  Got a quart sample from Nick at Ryonet.  Printed the silver with no modification through a 180LX and a second color - I added 10% violet to Matsui silver - with flashing in between also through a 180LX.  The image was also indexed at 150 dpi. 

No issues with opacity, clearing the screen, or washability.  It looks just as good after 10 washes (well, almost as good ;)).

I will try and post a pic...
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Post by: PhilR on February 15, 2014, 07:42:52 AM
Printed 150 of these last week. Discharge underbase, 4 colour process with spot black overprint. Took a few hours.  :o