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screen printing => General Screen Printing => Topic started by: Prosperi-Tees on May 09, 2013, 12:35:08 PM

Title: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on May 09, 2013, 12:35:08 PM
It will be a 1 color white print on the black area.
http://www.sanmar.com/sanmar-servlets/CatalogSearch?id=6191447&prodimage=imglib/catl/BG80_OrangeBlack_CB09_Pg12.jpg&swatch=Orange/Black&top=Y (http://www.sanmar.com/sanmar-servlets/CatalogSearch?id=6191447&prodimage=imglib/catl/BG80_OrangeBlack_CB09_Pg12.jpg&swatch=Orange/Black&top=Y)
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: mk162 on May 09, 2013, 12:37:36 PM
how many are you doing?  no you shouldn't have a problem, but these are cheaper to do ASI
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: ebscreen on May 09, 2013, 12:40:38 PM
We've printed a ton of them. Use your best poly ink and watch temps, they're bleeders. One hit white should be no
problem though. The only reason I like poly.
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on May 09, 2013, 12:41:08 PM
Thats what I thought but its only 100 pcs for a contract customer.
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: balloonguy on May 09, 2013, 12:45:43 PM
Just watch your temp. You can melt those bags very quickly.
Poly ink if you are printing light on dark.
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: mk162 on May 09, 2013, 12:46:21 PM
I use catalyst on these instead, that way I can really drop the temps and they will be fine.
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on May 09, 2013, 12:46:56 PM
I have some low temp additive. I imagine that would help.
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: Denis Kolar on May 09, 2013, 12:49:29 PM
Silicone ink?
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: mk162 on May 09, 2013, 01:08:18 PM
won't work, I tried it on nylon jackets and it pees off
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: Frog on May 09, 2013, 03:32:27 PM
won't work, I tried it on nylon jackets and it pees off

I think that you meant "peels off", but these are Poly, not nylon.
What say the Nazdar folks? Is your new wonder ink appropriate for this type of Poly? I have some similar ripstop pieces coming in myself.
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: mk162 on May 09, 2013, 03:43:08 PM
Yes, but it will piss you off, I checked and it was a woven poly jacket.  there wasn't enough for it to bite into I guess.

I would go catalyst.
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: MarielAviles on May 10, 2013, 10:01:30 AM
I would recommend printing Epic Performance White.  It will cure @ 290 degrees and the ink already has properties to bond to nylon, so you don't need to add any catalyst to the ink.  Let me know if you have any further questions.

http://www.polyone.com/en-us/about/businessgroups/Inks/Literature/PIB_Wilflex%20Epic%20Performance%20White.pdf (http://www.polyone.com/en-us/about/businessgroups/Inks/Literature/PIB_Wilflex%20Epic%20Performance%20White.pdf)

http://www.polyone.com/en-us/about/businessgroups/Inks/Literature/Epic%20Performance%20Launch_Final.pdf (http://www.polyone.com/en-us/about/businessgroups/Inks/Literature/Epic%20Performance%20Launch_Final.pdf)

Regards,

Mariel
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: Printficient on May 10, 2013, 10:06:44 AM
Xenon Mu$tang White cures at 260 degrees.  It was designed to go on Nylon all the way up to Cotton.
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: blue moon on May 10, 2013, 10:13:59 AM
if I remember correctly, we had to unzip them and load through the opening. Make sure they will fit on your plattens. . .

we used regular ink with nylonbond and keep the temp down.

pierre
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: Frog on May 10, 2013, 10:20:19 AM
if I remember correctly, we had to unzip them and load through the opening. Make sure they will fit on your plattens. . .

we used regular ink with nylonbond and keep the temp down.

pierre

Pierre, how low did you go? And, when you say "regular" ink, do you mean not even low bleed? And, did you try it on red by any chance?
Title: Re: Will I have any trouble printing on these bags?
Post by: blue moon on May 10, 2013, 10:37:08 AM
if I remember correctly, we had to unzip them and load through the opening. Make sure they will fit on your plattens. . .

we used regular ink with nylonbond and keep the temp down.

pierre

Pierre, how low did you go? And, when you say "regular" ink, do you mean not even low bleed? And, did you try it on red by any chance?

our regular ink is low bleed. We might have used poly with nylonbond, but not sure. It could not hurt.
don't remember the color, sorry.
Nylonbond will make the ink cure without reaching full temp. We get the bags to come out at 300 or even lower (depending on material) so they tend to be OK. Having a gas dryer makes it a lot easier to control the temps. We could not do this with electric radiant setup.

pierre