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screen printing => Screen Making => Topic started by: Grumpy Ole Artist on May 16, 2013, 03:18:10 PM
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Anyone out there have a ballpark idea what it costs to put a 20x24 wood frame through the coat/reclaim/recoat cycle. (Using Ulano RLX, FYI) I know how to figure it up myself, but last time I counted screens per bucket of emulsion/gallon of ink degradent, etc., turned all the figures into the bosses, and never heard another thing about it. This is for my own self-torture. Am currently re-shooting a couple pairs of screens because a school teacher/senior advisor (who apparently doesn't lock her tee shirt storage closet) claims that the 3 people here who counted the goods, are incapable of doing so accurately.
Grrr! 4 screens x 1 shirt = reason I will never get a raise around here!
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I did it recently, and came up with about $9 per screen including labor. This was a rather loose calculation and I certain it was off, but it is better than nothing. I bet you Greg Kitson and Alan can give it to you down to a penny!
pierre
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Well, I would be that accurate too if I took the moon phases into account. ;)
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I did it recently, and came up with about $9 per screen including labor. This was a rather loose calculation and I certain it was off, but it is better than nothing. I bet you Greg Kitson and Alan can give it to you down to a penny!
pierre
Pierre,
Did you add anything for the cost of original out lay for the frame and mesh?
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I did it recently, and came up with about $9 per screen including labor. This was a rather loose calculation and I certain it was off, but it is better than nothing. I bet you Greg Kitson and Alan can give it to you down to a penny!
pierre
My shop, My variables, My Crew, My Overhead, Consumables about $3 bucks and labor about $7 bucks per screen. Actual cost from last time studies was $10.32 per screen to break even with no cost shifting from substrate Profitability.
In other words if your screen charge is not at least $10.33, you are subsidizing your customer. It can be built in to an all inclusive price or a line item screen charge, your choice.
~Kitson
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It's been a while since I did this and I don't have my notebook in front of me but I think it was in the 8.50 range. I remember being surprised and realizing that dropping our screen fee down to $10 was no longer a good idea. I'd need to redo the numbers again since things have changed at our shop and maybe I can get to that next week, I'll find this thread when I do and submit our numbers. Our numbers were inflated at the time due to thicker-than-needed stencils and we are now getting more screens from a gallon of emulsion. I remember there being some gallons of the PHW Red that would be empty at 35 screens!
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I did it recently, and came up with about $9 per screen including labor. This was a rather loose calculation and I certain it was off, but it is better than nothing. I bet you Greg Kitson and Alan can give it to you down to a penny!
pierre
Pierre,
Did you add anything for the cost of original out lay for the frame and mesh?
I did not, but the replacement cost is in there. In other word, no capital equipment amortized, but maintenance is in there. It probably comes up to about $0.50 per screen charge, but is rapidly coming down as we do more and more orders with the same number of screens.
pierre
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17.00 +/ screen. At the time we where paying more than double for Tape, Film and Emulsion. Labor was eating up a majority of the cost. We have recently installed a dip-tank and retrained staff, and will do another cost analysis within the next month or so.
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We allow for $15 cost per screen and with that we gang most screens so $30 per screen. With that we allow 5 minutes for film output, 5 minutes for registration, exposure and washout, 15 minutes for blockout and press setup, 10 minutes for tear down, 5 minutes for reclaim, 5 minutes to coat. So we easily have 45 minutes per screen (running two images)and another $5 in consumables. This is about $20 and a single image screen would be around 35 minutes round trip so closer to $15 range.
All these costs have to be covered somewhere and I think our times are pretty efficient.