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Title: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: Gilligan on September 10, 2013, 05:24:40 PM
Any of you guys seen this one yet?

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Hello Owner/General Manager

Greetings how are you doing today? My name is Mark Rowley I'm sending you this email because i will be needing your service i have a seminar coming up on  the 20th of September by 3pm ...I hope you do Screen printing on T shirts and accept all major credit card as method of payment if yes. i have some T-shirt i'll need you to do Screen printing on them all together are 100 dozen of T-shirts white in color and i'll like to put at the front of the T-shirts (ARISE AND SHINE) you move down lower and put (ISHIA 60 Vs 1) i need a perfect job on the T-shirts the total of the T-shirts are 1200Pcs.Sizes are M=74Cm 400pcs, XL=78cm 400pcs and XXL=80cm 400pcs.i will have a private carrier have the T-shirts deliver to your shop so you can work on them...so kindly get back to me the request information below..

Full name..
Shop Address..
Cell phone and Business phone number..
Types of credit card you accept..
Estimate of your service..

Thank you in anticipation of your prompt and favorable reply..

Best regard
Mark Rowley
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: tancehughes on September 10, 2013, 05:36:14 PM
I've gotten that one about four or five times already
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: blue moon on September 10, 2013, 05:58:16 PM
something similar few weeks back . . .

pierre
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: GraphicDisorder on September 10, 2013, 06:00:18 PM
Have them deliver the shirts, keep them.  LOL
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: ZooCity on September 10, 2013, 06:35:49 PM
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i need a perfect job

They always have that in there somewhere, it's uncanny, like they all come from one scam operation.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: Prosperi-Tees on September 10, 2013, 06:38:08 PM
Got that one last week, Told them it would be 2 million dollars. Didn't hear back.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: Gilligan on September 10, 2013, 10:11:27 PM
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i need a perfect job

They always have that in there somewhere, it's uncanny, like they all come from one scam operation.

Yep, that was the tell-tale sign that made me 100% sure it was scam.  Then it went into the cm's and they would deliver the shirts via private carrier blah blah blah.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: screenxpress on September 10, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Got that one last week, Told them it would be 2 million dollars. Didn't hear back.

I'd do it for half that.....  :D
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: prozyan on September 11, 2013, 12:51:53 AM
At least this one gets the count right.  Last time I saw this, they wanted 25 dozen for a total of 420 shirts.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: alan802 on September 11, 2013, 09:55:09 AM
I hope I get this one.  I need some test print shirts bad.  Wish they were darks though, but white will do for now.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: ScreenFoo on September 11, 2013, 10:34:44 AM
I hope I get this one.  I need some test print shirts bad.  Wish they were darks though, but white will do for now.

We're in the same boat.  Get me contact info if it works out.  ;)

Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: kingscreen on September 11, 2013, 11:24:12 AM
Got that one last week, Told them it would be 2 million dollars. Didn't hear back.

Too funny, we always reply with one million dollars. The tell for me is ARISE AND SHINE. We have about a dozen versions of this scam but they all see to have ARISE AND SHINE somewhere in the email or graphic.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: alan802 on September 11, 2013, 06:18:15 PM
I have baited the hook and pitched it out into the current, I'm gonna try to set the hook and rip the lips off this one. 
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: Mr Tees!! on September 11, 2013, 10:06:17 PM
   I got this exact one too, but with a catch...it came from an email of what appeared to be a promo company from around the ATL area which is close to me). I googled the company and found an address (albeit residential), and a website as well. It seemed to me like an awful lot of work to just APPEAR legit, and most of these scammers do not seem to put that much back-story into their scams. In the end, my thought was maybe they hijacked another company's abandoned-but-not-removed website and accompanying email addresses.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: topquality78 on November 20, 2013, 11:00:48 PM
Ok, I got this one last week and have been doing some snooping and playing along.  So far I have been given a MasterCard with address, phone and all info. I feel like the scammer needs to be scammed. I looked up the card billing phone number and it came up a furniture store in Pittsburgh, PA. When I looked further at them I got a Russian yellow pages add that they are associated with. Not sure if that means anything.  Anyway, I am deciding how to mess with these guys and what else i may do. I am worried from what else I found that they are in the medical/ healthcare field and maybe caring for elderly or disabled people and stealing their credit cards. Any, I will keep you posted. The least they could do is change up their wording, and I have never before been told do a perfect job for me and I give you 100.00 tip. Lol
Becca
www.topqualityscreenprinting (http://www.topqualityscreenprinting). com
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: GraphicDisorder on November 21, 2013, 06:43:08 AM
I am telling you, agree to the deal and let them deliver the shirt blanks.  Then string them along.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: alan802 on November 21, 2013, 09:26:03 AM
I've tried stringing them along and acted like I took the bait but they never got back to me.  I also tried that with a craigslist scammer last week and they didn't take my bait.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: Frog on November 21, 2013, 10:16:44 AM
Let's face it. For the most part, our experience is with apparel decoration (with only occasional contact with actual scams)
These guys, on the other hand, are full time experienced scammers with constant contact with decorators.
Like the fish that grows to a ripe old age and healthy size, or rather more like professional fishermen themselves, most of these guys probably have an innate sense of hooks and bait.
Of course, you may catch yourself a newbie small fry.  :)
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: Shanarchy on November 21, 2013, 01:27:47 PM
I'm just curious of what the actual scam here is. I've received this e-mail and others like it many times.

I mean ultimately, the scammer who is using a stolen credit card will end up with 1200 free shirts printed (perfectly) with Arise and Shine.

Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: ScreenFoo on November 21, 2013, 01:35:22 PM
In all honesty, I was kidding--the problem with most of them is that they are trying to PAY with the shirts with a stolen credit card.  Even if someone with a stolen card delivered shirts to be printed, you gotta figure those shirts were just stolen from someone else.

Really not a good deal either way.  What happens when they leave a trail of bread crumbs from the shop they stole shirts from to your shop? 
Now you look like the scammer--perhaps for good reason...
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: Northland on November 21, 2013, 07:21:40 PM
I've tried stringing them along and acted like I took the bait but they never got back to me.  I also tried that with a craigslist scammer last week and they didn't take my bait.


I recently heard a historian speak on these types of scams.... he said the origin can be traced to the "spanish prisioner" scam of the late 1800's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Prisoner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Prisoner)

The typical Nigerian scammer intentionally drafts the scam so that only the most gullible will respond... that way they don't waste considerable time on those who will never be parted with their money..... better to catch one really dumb fish than have a thousand nibbles that never take the hook.... hence the poor spelling and bad grammar.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: Im-Magic on November 21, 2013, 07:45:06 PM
The Scam is the freight charge and duty etc. They do not want the shirts so they will pay for them and the printing with a fake or stolen card. Then they will ask for you to send them to their freight company for on forwarding, the problem is the Freight company does not take Credit Cards so could you please send them the money via TT and charge our credit card. If you do that you will find that the shirts come back "Address does not exist" and the Credit card is rejected but they have your money for the freight.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: screenxpress on November 22, 2013, 12:43:44 AM
Good explanation.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: Shanarchy on November 22, 2013, 09:16:24 AM
The Scam is the freight charge and duty etc. They do not want the shirts so they will pay for them and the printing with a fake or stolen card. Then they will ask for you to send them to their freight company for on forwarding, the problem is the Freight company does not take Credit Cards so could you please send them the money via TT and charge our credit card. If you do that you will find that the shirts come back "Address does not exist" and the Credit card is rejected but they have your money for the freight.

Very interesting. I figured there had to be more to in down the line.
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: Screened Gear on November 22, 2013, 02:24:08 PM
I get these all the time. I find it funny how they don't even put enough effort into it to know what you do. They say things like I hope you do screen printing. That and why they always want blank shirts. If one of these losers sent me in a design I would most likely not even think it was a scam untill it was too late. It does scare me because a month back I had a guy call me and ask for something like 800 blank shirts. He was out of state and I just told him we don't sell blanks. After I hung up (do people still say hung up since your not hanging the phone anymore???) I thought about it and I bet that was them trying to scam me.

Good luck to all of you.

Jon
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: 3Deep on November 22, 2013, 02:53:30 PM
I know it's a scam when they ask for 1000 blanks or 1000 printed Tees, cause it's very rare for us to get a customer like that without them standing right in front of us.  I can see this scam working on larger companies that have orders like that flying around every day with sales staff out the boot.

Darryl
Title: Re: Latest version of the white t-shirt scam 9-10-13
Post by: screenxpress on November 22, 2013, 07:29:01 PM
Maybe they'll have success with Custom Ink.   ;)