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General => General Discussion and ??? => Topic started by: jesterapparel on September 30, 2013, 11:03:12 PM
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Anyone have a good source for white ones? I was just thinking about buying stickers and throwing them on blank ones when shipping.
But it might look odd on brown boxes because of white backgrounds. Seems like custom printing on boxes are expensive.
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We couldn't find the right size sold as "stock sizes" anywhere so we just had a box mfg. make us the standard cade size. We print them ourselves, super easy!
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we order blank boxes from a local box company (image that!), and we screen print them with cheap ass speedball ink. Use huge screens, and do a two color print with loose reg. Takes about an hour to do 100 boxes, 2 sided.
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What size boxes are you guys using... What prices are you guys paying? I can't seem to beat uline with the places that I'm finding, but I'd like to!
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we ordered a ton of 19x25x15 for our first order (200 i think) and paid about 2 bucks a box. It was much cheaper than uline and a few other online suppliers. They also have no markings or branding at all.
The boxes are actually too big in my opinion. They are cumbersome to move when full (they fit about 130 shirts max) and a waste to use on anything smaller. Next round I will order 13x20x10 I think. That should fit about 50 shirts using the flip fold and about the same folded in dozens.
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We got whatever the standard Gildan full cases are, 21 x 16 x 13 or close to that if I remember correctly. The were $1.60ea. for craft white(I think it was called) we offer them 1000 at a time.
We also order 500 of ones that are 21 x 8.5 x 13. Those run $1.20ea.
Both boxes are white heavy cardboard, I don't remember the "crush weight" but they are the heavy 2 ply.
I would be interested to see what others pay. I have never checked our prices, I have been printing "favor" orders for a box sales guy since the first year we opened. I guess I always figured he was hooking us up.
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We get standard blank boxes (not white) from a local vendor...
22x14x6 for $1.32 each
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22x14x12 for $1.67 each
print them like mimosatexas with the cheapo speedball ink, just a quick 1 color print with our logo and info on it.... takes no time, and looks cool to our customers.
the boxes hold 2 stacks of folded shirts nicely, we typically fit 2 doz shirts in the 6" tall, 4 doz shirts in the 12" tall, (but there's room for at least several more) which really is all I want to be carrying at a time anyways, I hate those TALL gildan boxes that come with 12doz shirts in them.. what a pita to move around.
one thing we found, especially with uline, but other suppliers too, is that the shipping will kill you... none of them seems to offer free shipping... so finding a local vendor with will-call really helps save cost. Our vendor is literally 2 miles from us.
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We get standard blank boxes (not white) from a local vendor...
22x14x6 for $1.32 each
and
22x14x12 for $1.67 each
print them like mimosatexas with the cheapo speedball ink, just a quick 1 color print with our logo and info on it.... takes no time, and looks cool to our customers.
the boxes hold 2 stacks of folded shirts nicely, we typically fit 2 doz shirts in the 6" tall, 4 doz shirts in the 12" tall, (but there's room for at least several more) which really is all I want to be carrying at a time anyways, I hate those TALL gildan boxes that come with 12doz shirts in them.. what a pita to move around.
one thing we found, especially with uline, but other suppliers too, is that the shipping will kill you... none of them seems to offer free shipping... so finding a local vendor with will-call really helps save cost. Our vendor is literally 2 miles from us.
Do you run them through the dryer? Never used speedball ink before.
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yup... run them through with the dryer set at like 160 or so, and the belt speed as fast as it'll run.. any hotter or slower, and the boxes start to curl.
it's waterbased ink of some sort, soaks into the cardboard nicely and dries quick.
re-reading now, the original poster was looking for white boxes... not enough coffee yet this morning... LOL.
-J
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The ink we use is Jacquard, it is what our vendor suggested we use. It works just fine, we let them air dry. Print them in groups of 50 or so, by the time you are done with the one side of the 50 the first one is dry and then we run the second side.
The box supplier swears he can get them printed for something like $0.05ea. but there is a couple hundred dollar set up for the plate. Problem is I can never fully settle on a "print" for them. I always want to change one thing, add something funny on the top flap, much easier and cheaper to do if all we have to do is burn another screen and see if I like it!
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yup... run them through with the dryer set at like 160 or so, and the belt speed as fast as it'll run.. any hotter or slower, and the boxes start to curl.
it's waterbased ink of some sort, soaks into the cardboard nicely and dries quick.
re-reading now, the original poster was looking for white boxes... not enough coffee yet this morning... LOL.
-J
I'm not racist... I'm open to brown boxes as well. ;)
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I'm not racist... I'm open to brown boxes as well. ;)
ZING!!!!! You just kinda pined me in a corner! Thanks buddy.... :o
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we don't run ours through the dryer, but it would definitely speed up drying. The speedball will dry in about 5-7 minutes anyway so we typically just lean them at increasing angles against a wall or the dryer or a press or all of them at once depending on how many we print. We have printed for a few clients in the same way, and you can do multiple colors pretty easily if tight registration isn't involved. It's basically like printing cumbersome posters.
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I'm not racist... I'm open to brown boxes as well. ;)
ZING!!!!! You just kinda pined me in a corner! Thanks buddy.... :o
Hey, you are in Minnesota, all you ever see is white. Well, except for that one 4' tall dude purifying himself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka.
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I'm not racist... I'm open to brown boxes as well. ;)
ZING!!!!! You just kinda pined me in a corner! Thanks buddy.... :o
Hey, you are in Minnesota, all you ever see is white. Well, except for that one 4' tall dude purifying himself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka.
and Kirby Puckett!
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I'm not racist... I'm open to brown boxes as well. ;)
ZING!!!!! You just kinda pined me in a corner! Thanks buddy.... :o
Hey, you are in Minnesota, all you ever see is white. Well, except for that one 4' tall dude purifying himself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka.
Someone is in the wrong line of work.... Comedy may pay better!
My dad's side of the fam is from Tennessee, I remember hearing my great grandpa calling the civil war "the war of northern aggression" :o
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..we print our own boxes, as well as some large paper bags for smaller orders. Attached are a couple of pics for reference. We chose these two because we can use the same art/screen for both.The box we get is here...
http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-16741/Corrugated-Boxes-200-Test/21-x-15-x-15-Corrugated-Boxes (http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-16741/Corrugated-Boxes-200-Test/21-x-15-x-15-Corrugated-Boxes)
...the the paper bag is quite large, we can get two dozen in there no problem....they are also a lot less expensive than a comparable box.
http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-9663/Retail-Bags-Paper/24-x-7-1-4-x-18-3-4-Magnum-Kraft-Paper-Shopping-Bags (http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-9663/Retail-Bags-Paper/24-x-7-1-4-x-18-3-4-Magnum-Kraft-Paper-Shopping-Bags)
..we have used different inks in the past, but this last time we went with Nazdar 5500 series made for uncoated paper. Turned our gas dryer down to 180 degrees and ran thru as normal. The boxes do tend to curl and get hung in the dryer, so open your gates up wide and experiment with how you lay them on the belt. Worked great!
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I'm not racist... I'm open to brown boxes as well. ;)
ZING!!!!! You just kinda pined me in a corner! Thanks buddy.... :o
Hey, you are in Minnesota, all you ever see is white. Well, except for that one 4' tall dude purifying himself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka.
Someone is in the wrong line of work.... Comedy may pay better!
My dad's side of the fam is from Tennessee, I remember hearing my great grandpa calling the civil war "the war of northern aggression" :o
Uhh, I still here tha "joke" to this day!
..we print our own boxes, as well as some large paper bags for smaller orders. Attached are a couple of pics for reference. We chose these two because we can use the same art/screen for both.The box we get is here...
[url]http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-16741/Corrugated-Boxes-200-Test/21-x-15-x-15-Corrugated-Boxes[/url] ([url]http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-16741/Corrugated-Boxes-200-Test/21-x-15-x-15-Corrugated-Boxes[/url])
...the the paper bag is quite large, we can get two dozen in there no problem....they are also a lot less expensive than a comparable box.
[url]http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-9663/Retail-Bags-Paper/24-x-7-1-4-x-18-3-4-Magnum-Kraft-Paper-Shopping-Bags[/url] ([url]http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-9663/Retail-Bags-Paper/24-x-7-1-4-x-18-3-4-Magnum-Kraft-Paper-Shopping-Bags[/url])
..we have used different inks in the past, but this last time we went with Nazdar 5500 series made for uncoated paper. Turned our gas dryer down to 180 degrees and ran thru as normal. The boxes do tend to curl and get hung in the dryer, so open your gates up wide and experiment with how you lay them on the belt. Worked great!
Very nice sir, thanks for the insight!
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For those using speedball ink, which one? Acrylic?
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If you don't want to bother buying more ink, plain wb shirt ink might work. It's worth a try. I'm not a big fan of speedball to be honest. I have used aerotex a couple times because I had it laying around, which is a shirt ink.
Whatever graphic ink you use, keep that stencil flooded.
Anyone buy the boxes cut, but flat and unglued?
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I just use standard speedball shirt ink too... I'm guessing any wb shirt ink would probably work just fine tho... it just happens to be what we had laying around the shop the first time we tried it.
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we print those brown bags with our logo with regular plastisol black, run it through the dryer, no problems.
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we print those brown bags with our logo with regular plastisol black, run it through the dryer, no problems.
I've done that as well.
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We always use the fabric speedball, but honestly I can't tell a difference between their lines. I have picked up the wrong one on accident and didn't notice. I sort of assumed the fabric would be higher quality which is why we buy that, but they both suck crap for anything but quick paper printing.
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I've been wanting to do this for a while now. Print a couple hundred boxes with our logo on them and use them every once in a while. We can't use them for everything that goes out of here or we'd go broke but if done strategically I think it could make a difference.
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start with those brown bags, that's how we started. good for those small orders.
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We've been using the bags more and more actually. You can fit 36-48 shirts (four dozens with the sleeved tucked under and stacked) in the 10x15x15 bags from uline depending on the shirt size. They cost barely anything.