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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: Northland on October 07, 2013, 08:15:26 PM
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... just got notified, via e-mail, that Anatol will be introducing an all-electric press at SGIA.
Looks like a Titan with AC print heads and servo index.
Must have electric solenoids for the choppers (?).... because the ad claims "no air compressor or air dryer needed"
That will be an interesting option for us small, home based printers.
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Yes Mike mentioned it to me we shall see.
Roger
RT screen designs
Www.rtscreendesigns. Com
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Good for Anatol :) May they have great success with this one.
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Good for Anatol :) May they have great success with this one.
;)
Roger
RT screen designs
Www.rtscreendesigns. Com
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Nice! My initial guess is there's no way they'd have 2 solenoids per squeegee/flood as that would get pricey really quickly, but who knows! Will be cool to see for sure! I have always wanted a dedicated sleeve/small/specialty auto. Cheaper to buy custom pallets for and leave the big machine to run normal prints. Just wish they'd fit a 23x31 screen. I'd like a 4 color titan all electric with 23x31 frame lol I can wish can't I!?
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Nice! My initial guess is there's no way they'd have 2 solenoids per squeegee/flood as that would get pricey really quickly, but who knows! Will be cool to see for sure! I have always wanted a dedicated sleeve/small/specialty auto. Cheaper to buy custom pallets for and leave the big machine to run normal prints. Just wish they'd fit a 23x31 screen. I'd like a 4 color titan all electric with 23x31 frame lol I can wish can't I!?
This for sure doesn't look that big :(
I wonder if they would offer different configurations, this looks like 5/6.
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From Anatol person:
The Volt comes in:
15" x 16" max image area in the following configurations:
4/2
4/3
6/4
6/5
8/6
8/7
16" x 18" max image area (23" x 31" max screen size) in the following configurations:
8/6
8/7
10/8
10/9
12/10
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Yeah got more info from a rep, they can fit 23x31 on every other head as well. Video will be cool to see.
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If only they weren't such such $#@% bags. <--- self censored but by the hardest!
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If only they weren't such such $#@% bags. <--- self censored but by the hardest!
lol tell us how you really feel? They have always been nice to me even though I bought my press used. I have bought some parts from them over the phone a few times, pretty painless.
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If only they weren't such such $#@% bags. <--- self censored but by the hardest!
lol tell us how you really feel? They have always been nice to me even though I bought my press used. I have bought some parts from them over the phone a few times, pretty painless.
Well, they've let it be known how they really feel. ;)
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If only they weren't such such $#@% bags. <--- self censored but by the hardest!
What issues did you have with them?
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This is a good idea on anatol's part. Like I had said in a earlier post, they are always re-defining the "entry level press". Now a guy doesn't even need to have a air compressor.
Just like IntegrityShirts said I would LOVE a small format press for sleeves, bags basic 1 colors, ect. I think ASPE just came out with what I want though. Their LPXL is perfect. anatol could steal a idea out of ASPE's bag and make this new press with a max imprint area of 12x12 and I bet they would sell even more! Smaller foot print, cheaper, and most "beginners" would be fine with printing a 1 or 2 color design no bigger than 12".
You guys "in the know" has anatol hinted at a asking price?
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I spent 30 minutes at their booth at the ISS Ft Worth show and there was no mention of this new press. Looking back on that I'm fairly certain the distributor and Anatol rep had no knowledge of this or they are very good at keeping secrets since we talked specifically about the all electric Brown a few rows away. I'd like to see how they are working the choppers and see how pressure is regulated. If it's simply regulated by how far the squeegee goes down, then I couldn't use it for a lot of what we do. Dark ink, light shirts, no problem, but when it comes to maximizing opacity for a specific ink I need control over downward force. Is that a giant monitor on that thing or is the press that small, bad photoshop perhaps? I saw the Aries system up close, the step back feature, etc. and like I've always said, the machines...not that bad. They were doing a nice little sim process job on it using the step back, and for the one man show who has more than he wants to do manually then printing 150-200 dark shirts an hour is freaking awesome.
So close, yet so, so very far away.
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I spent 30 minutes at their booth at the ISS Ft Worth show and there was no mention of this new press. Looking back on that I'm fairly certain the distributor and Anatol rep had no knowledge of this or they are very good at keeping secrets since we talked specifically about the all electric Brown a few rows away. I'd like to see how they are working the choppers and see how pressure is regulated. If it's simply regulated by how far the squeegee goes down, then I couldn't use it for a lot of what we do. Dark ink, light shirts, no problem, but when it comes to maximizing opacity for a specific ink I need control over downward force. Is that a giant monitor on that thing or is the press that small, bad photoshop perhaps? I saw the Aries system up close, the step back feature, etc. and like I've always said, the machines...not that bad. They were doing a nice little sim process job on it using the step back, and for the one man show who has more than he wants to do manually then printing 150-200 dark shirts an hour is freaking awesome.
So close, yet so, so very far away.
There was an anatol rep there? hard to tell... I thought it was just a local supplier's kids running the booth.
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I spent 30 minutes at their booth at the ISS Ft Worth show and there was no mention of this new press. Looking back on that I'm fairly certain the distributor and Anatol rep had no knowledge of this or they are very good at keeping secrets since we talked specifically about the all electric Brown a few rows away. I'd like to see how they are working the choppers and see how pressure is regulated. If it's simply regulated by how far the squeegee goes down, then I couldn't use it for a lot of what we do. Dark ink, light shirts, no problem, but when it comes to maximizing opacity for a specific ink I need control over downward force. Is that a giant monitor on that thing or is the press that small, bad photoshop perhaps? I saw the Aries system up close, the step back feature, etc. and like I've always said, the machines...not that bad. They were doing a nice little sim process job on it using the step back, and for the one man show who has more than he wants to do manually then printing 150-200 dark shirts an hour is freaking awesome.
So close, yet so, so very far away.
Looks like from the pic above that the choppers still have depth adjusters, so I'd guess "pressure" can be knocked down/up individually. No screen is too big lol I want the Aries OS on my 2004 Trident, that'd be bad-ace rather than drilling down through the menus to adjust parameters.
Gilligan, we get it, you hate Anatol :-*
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So close, yet so, so very far away.
Alan you are a wordsmith! SO much of the frustration I had with them can be summed up by that! Brilliant!
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As a person who has a press that uses mechanical rather than pneumatic means to operate the choppers, why? Seriously, how much air would choppers for such a small press take?
After taking a look at the sRoque site, since I didn't see air consumption listed in the documentation for the M&R presses for some reason, it looks like the biggest (12/10) of these Anatol presses would take a whopping 5 cfm. Taken from here, http://www.sroque.pt/products/screen-printing-machines/roqprint-basic/ (http://www.sroque.pt/products/screen-printing-machines/roqprint-basic/) notice that I am taking the number from the notes at the bottom of the spec tab since I think that the 8.9 cfm + number of print heads is if you go full air. A compressor that can support more than 5 cfm isn't very expensive, especially if you buy used.
On it's operation, I can only guess, but it looks like the choppers are on some sort of rocker that is operated via a single solenoid with adjustable stops to vary pressure. My american operates like this, sans solenoid and if I didn't get it so cheap, I wouldn't put up with it. I don't know how much this anatol will go for, but I bet it's more than $1500. Also the print area on my american is a fair bit larger.
Alan, it's possible to print pretty much anything, I have even done stacked hd ink, but it may take you for-ever to set up. Though single stroke whites would certainly be an issue I suppose.
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I spent 30 minutes at their booth at the ISS Ft Worth show and there was no mention of this new press. Looking back on that I'm fairly certain the distributor and Anatol rep had no knowledge of this or they are very good at keeping secrets since we talked specifically about the all electric Brown a few rows away. I'd like to see how they are working the choppers and see how pressure is regulated. If it's simply regulated by how far the squeegee goes down, then I couldn't use it for a lot of what we do. Dark ink, light shirts, no problem, but when it comes to maximizing opacity for a specific ink I need control over downward force. Is that a giant monitor on that thing or is the press that small, bad photoshop perhaps? I saw the Aries system up close, the step back feature, etc. and like I've always said, the machines...not that bad. They were doing a nice little sim process job on it using the step back, and for the one man show who has more than he wants to do manually then printing 150-200 dark shirts an hour is freaking awesome.
So close, yet so, so very far away.
Looks like from the pic above that the choppers still have depth adjusters, so I'd guess "pressure" can be knocked down/up individually. No screen is too big lol I want the Aries OS on my 2004 Trident, that'd be bad-ace rather than drilling down through the menus to adjust parameters.
Gilligan, we get it, you hate Anatol :-*
No, honestly that was my assessment of their booth... it was very awkward. They seemed to be sharing a space with Excalibur Inks... who also had that awkward feel... first time we talked to them it was kids and didn't feel like they had a clue. Then we spoke with the actual rep, maybe more than a rep and he clearly had knowledge. I don't remember talking to the anatol guy and only remembered the kids kind of bouncing around the press. Could just be a fuzzy memory though.
My dislike of Anatol only happened VERY recently... no bias, they are 100% behind the problem. I was always open to getting an Anatol press up until about a week ago.
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I think there was an Anatol guy in the booth but it was mainly a supplier/distributor running the booth. I didn't mention earlier but it was a Titan they were showing. I wish I would have spent more time analyzing the press but I like chatting and talking shop and that's what we did most of the time. I only spoke directly with the supplier and his wife and not the person who I think was the rep but he was listening in on the conversation. The guy I thought was the Anatol rep did not look familiar nor did he introduce himself but I did catch him staring at my badge a few times.
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Alan, did they mention anything about the new tag printer they are supposed to be releasing?
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Hey Alan, thanks for stopping by the booth and talking shop. I enjoy talking shop, probably way too much :) I was actually hoping you would get a chance to stop back by the booth and get a better look at the Titan. If you are ever up this way in Arlington and want to stop by and take a up close look at one, the door is always open to you and anyone else that may want to.
Gilligan, I am sorry that we gave you an awkward feeling at our booth, I do apologize for that. If there is something or a question I can help you with, please feel free to ask.
And since I was in the neighborhood here is the info on the tag printer
*NEW* Introducing Anatol's new automatic small-format textile printer.
- Maximum image area 6" x 6"
- Maximum screen size 10" x 25"
- 1 - 4 colors
- 6 - 10 stations
- Servo indexer
- Pneumatic print heads
- 8" touchscreen operating system
- Quick release squeegees & flood bars
- Adjustable stroke & flood speed
- Adjustable dwell setting
- Double print stroke setting
- Adjustable flash time & intensity
- Automatic t-shirt sensor
- Foot pedal option
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Hey Alan, thanks for stopping by the booth and talking shop. I enjoy talking shop, probably way too much :) I was actually hoping you would get a chance to stop back by the booth and get a better look at the Titan. If you are ever up this way in Arlington and want to stop by and take a up close look at one, the door is always open to you and anyone else that may want to.
Gilligan, I am sorry that we gave you an awkward feeling at our booth, I do apologize for that. If there is something or a question I can help you with, please feel free to ask.
And since I was in the neighborhood here is the info on the tag printer
*NEW* Introducing Anatol's new automatic small-format textile printer.
- Maximum image area 6" x 6"
- Maximum screen size 10" x 25"
- 1 - 4 colors
- 6 - 10 stations
- Servo indexer
- Pneumatic print heads
- 8" touchscreen operating system
- Quick release squeegees & flood bars
- Adjustable stroke & flood speed
- Adjustable dwell setting
- Double print stroke setting
- Adjustable flash time & intensity
- Automatic t-shirt sensor
- Foot pedal option
Whats the starting price on that puppy?
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Tag Printer list price.
Starts @ $11,900.00
Gonna have one at the SGIA show in Orlando as well as the all electric Volt, a Titan and Horizon.
If your in the area stop by and say hi :)
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Looks like the volt's screen clamps need to be manually tightened like the Brown. There has to be a way to get something similar to the air clamps on an electric press.
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I heard rumbles the Volt may start at as much as $30k, is that at all accurate? That kind of a price (provided it is accurate) doesn't really jive with the entry level press category....
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Pretty close,
The Volt starts @ 28K for a 6/5
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You sir have been a good sport. anatol should be happy to have someone like you representing them!
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Well if you take into consideration that a6/5 all air Titan will run you about 21k, the volt isn't that bad once you get a compressor, chiller, plumbing and electrical work done it is probably close to the same.
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You sir have been a good sport. anatol should be happy to have someone like you representing them!
I truly appreciate the kind words. Thank You
got more ?'s for me :)
Well if you take into consideration that a6/5 all air Titan will run you about 21k, the volt isn't that bad once you get a compressor, chiller, plumbing and electrical work done it is probably close to the same.
Yes, your right it is about the same all things considered. I think the really nice thing is no compressor to listen to. After installing a lot of Titans into garages, the one thing everyone has said is they wish they could get away from the noise of that compressor or they are crossing their fingers that the neighbors won't get upset with them running that late night, got to go job.
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Well if you take into consideration that a6/5 all air Titan will run you about 21k, the volt isn't that bad once you get a compressor, chiller, plumbing and electrical work done it is probably close to the same.
Are you serious!? I thought a Titan was like $18k-$19k-ish.
Is a candy bar still a nickle, and a phone call a quarter? I must be getting old! O0
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You may be right, I have gotten so many quotes over the past couple years from them I can't keep up. 3 years ago a 6/5 was about 17 so I actually may not be far off.
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If only they weren't such such $#@% bags. <--- self censored but by the hardest!
What issues did you have with them?
Still waiting for an answer!
Someone new to this forum might think that you had a bad experience with Anatol because of your comment.
Did you? Or that is just something that you heard somewhere on internet/forum?
If you did not have direct experience that would make you say such a nasty comment, I would reconsider post like that in the future. You are badmouthing an screen printing manufacturer because someone told you they are bad? Do you know the background of his/her comments?
That little rant of yours might cost this company tens, or even hundreds of thousands of $$$$.
First of all, I'm not affiliated with Anatol in any shape or form. I do not have any of their equipment nor I plan to buy any equipment in near future. So, I do not get anything with typing this. But it just puzzles me that someone can write a comment like that because he heard something. Even if that is 100% correct, it is not yours to say it, the person who got damaged (It that happened) by Anatol should rant about them.
In my opinion, I could complain only about Antec, Tajima, Toyota, Mutoh and Graphtec, but in any shape or form I should make such a comment about M&R, Anatol, MHM, Workhorse, Vastex or any other company.
Gilly, your hands (typing) are sometimes much faster than your brain, you should really consider who are you badmouthing, and if you do, back it up with your experience.
I got nothing against you, you tried to help me few times, asked a few questions and I tried to help back as good as I could, but I can not just stand back and look someone badmouthing manufacturer because of hear-say.
You bring quite a lot to this forum (In positive way) but also you sometimes bring such a chaos too. Please do not consider like an attack on you, just a friendly suggestion from a fellow forum member.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU WILL NEED SOMEONE. And down the road, I do not think that you will have many friend at Anatol after that post.
My rant is over.
Have a good night everyone. Stay safe and friendly on TSB.
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Well if you take into consideration that a6/5 all air Titan will run you about 21k, the volt isn't that bad once you get a compressor, chiller, plumbing and electrical work done it is probably close to the same.
Are you serious!? I thought a Titan was like $18k-$19k-ish.
Is a candy bar still a nickle, and a phone call a quarter? I must be getting old! O0
You forgot loaf of bread for thirty nine cents, gasoline for eighty nine cents, or just the fact that I and you actually typed out the dollar amounts, instead of some new age texting, hash brown tagging thingy :)
Anyway,
All Air Titan 6/5 is $18,500
Servo Index, Air Heads is $21,250
Servo Index, AC Heads is $25,375
The Volt being all electric is were the comparable comes in using the Titan Servo Index, AC Heads pricing point.
Just FYI
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If only they weren't such such $#@% bags. <--- self censored but by the hardest!
What issues did you have with them?
Still waiting for an answer!
Someone new to this forum might think that you had a bad experience with Anatol because of your comment.
Did you? Or that is just something that you heard somewhere on internet/forum?
If you did not have direct experience that would make you say such a nasty comment, I would reconsider post like that in the future. You are badmouthing an screen printing manufacturer because someone told you they are bad? Do you know the background of his/her comments?
That little rant of yours might cost this company tens, or even hundreds of thousands of $$$$.
First of all, I'm not affiliated with Anatol in any shape or form. I do not have any of their equipment nor I plan to buy any equipment in near future. So, I do not get anything with typing this. But it just puzzles me that someone can write a comment like that because he heard something. Even if that is 100% correct, it is not yours to say it, the person who got damaged (It that happened) by Anatol should rant about them.
In my opinion, I could complain only about Antec, Tajima, Toyota, Mutoh and Graphtec, but in any shape or form I should make such a comment about M&R, Anatol, MHM, Workhorse, Vastex or any other company.
Gilly, your hands (typing) are sometimes much faster than your brain, you should really consider who are you badmouthing, and if you do, back it up with your experience.
I got nothing against you, you tried to help me few times, asked a few questions and I tried to help back as good as I could, but I can not just stand back and look someone badmouthing manufacturer because of hear-say.
You bring quite a lot to this forum (In positive way) but also you sometimes bring such a chaos too. Please do not consider like an attack on you, just a friendly suggestion from a fellow forum member.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU WILL NEED SOMEONE. And down the road, I do not think that you will have many friend at Anatol after that post.
My rant is over.
Have a good night everyone. Stay safe and friendly on TSB.
Gilligan has a VERY valid reason. Without betraying his trust and stepping over the line, I am going to leave it at that. I just wanted to back him up and validate the fact he has a VERY good reason.
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If only they weren't such such $#@% bags. <--- self censored but by the hardest!
What issues did you have with them?
Still waiting for an answer!
Someone new to this forum might think that you had a bad experience with Anatol because of your comment.
Did you? Or that is just something that you heard somewhere on internet/forum?
If you did not have direct experience that would make you say such a nasty comment, I would reconsider post like that in the future. You are badmouthing an screen printing manufacturer because someone told you they are bad? Do you know the background of his/her comments?
That little rant of yours might cost this company tens, or even hundreds of thousands of $$$$.
First of all, I'm not affiliated with Anatol in any shape or form. I do not have any of their equipment nor I plan to buy any equipment in near future. So, I do not get anything with typing this. But it just puzzles me that someone can write a comment like that because he heard something. Even if that is 100% correct, it is not yours to say it, the person who got damaged (It that happened) by Anatol should rant about them.
In my opinion, I could complain only about Antec, Tajima, Toyota, Mutoh and Graphtec, but in any shape or form I should make such a comment about M&R, Anatol, MHM, Workhorse, Vastex or any other company.
Gilly, your hands (typing) are sometimes much faster than your brain, you should really consider who are you badmouthing, and if you do, back it up with your experience.
I got nothing against you, you tried to help me few times, asked a few questions and I tried to help back as good as I could, but I can not just stand back and look someone badmouthing manufacturer because of hear-say.
You bring quite a lot to this forum (In positive way) but also you sometimes bring such a chaos too. Please do not consider like an attack on you, just a friendly suggestion from a fellow forum member.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU WILL NEED SOMEONE. And down the road, I do not think that you will have many friend at Anatol after that post.
My rant is over.
Have a good night everyone. Stay safe and friendly on TSB.
Sorry, I just don't have the legal team needed to say all that needs to be said.
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Well, with all that being (not) said, I'm still looking forward to seeing how the choppers actuate and function on this all electric press. Wonder if it is a re-engineered existing method like Brown, or if it's all new stuff. Servo lift is cool too.
Maybe quick release/engage adjustable manual clamps could be something down the road to add to a press like this. There was never really a need for anything more than a threaded clamp before because manufacturers skipped anything more complicated and went straight to air clamps.
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Sorry, I just don't have the legal team needed to say all that needs to be said.
I guess I missed something recently :)
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Well, with all that being (not) said, I'm still looking forward to seeing how the choppers actuate and function on this all electric press. Wonder if it is a re-engineered existing method like Brown, or if it's all new stuff. Servo lift is cool too.
Maybe quick release/engage adjustable manual clamps could be something down the road to add to a press like this. There was never really a need for anything more than a threaded clamp before because manufacturers skipped anything more complicated and went straight to air clamps.
I think it will be interesting to see what that use for the choppers as well. I am guessing it will be something like Browns. Browns electraprint and the all electric Graphica press Is basically what the Volt is going up against right?
I have to disagree with you on the threaded or screw down screen clamps. The extra time involved and just the pure PITA factor would be enough to drive me crazy. But I suppose if someone transitions directly from a manual they wouldn't know any better.
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I have to disagree with you on the threaded or screw down screen clamps. The extra time involved and just the pure PITA factor would be enough to drive me crazy. But I suppose if someone transitions directly from a manual they wouldn't know any better.
Plain old twistie manual screen clamps are a pain. What I was referring to, I guess doesn't exist lol after googling. So I drew up a picture from my head of how it would operate.
I give you, the Bump Clamp (patent pending not). Push the spring-loaded button down to hold frame, then crank the handle 1/4 turn to lock it:
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Well, does that count as prior art? :) I'd patent that if I were you, it's perfect and would work great if the kip lever guts are made correclty, almost like a socket wrench with a toothed wheel/rachet and pawl inside to hold the bump in the down position then flip the kip lever (or something else similar) to release. Reduce the backlash with a rubber stop inside, or a spring and boom, you've got an awesome tool to use on an auto or manual press. Dude, that's one of the best ideas I've seen for a press in a long time.
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Well, mine is a little different than what you've got with how you'd use the kip lever and would be easier to manufacture yours than mine.
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I forgot to add the quick-release button. Loosen the kip lever and hit the button so the spring raises the clamp lol. I have no idea how the kip lever would engage the shaft (heh heh) but I'm just a thinker, not a doer.
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THAT I WOULD GO FOR! Sweet idea!
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I'm 1/2 way through replacing the screw down clamps on my old javelin with air clamps... HUGE upgrade for me... after the first head was set up, I ordered the rest of the parts to finish the press. I never want to deal with a press with screw clamps again... heck, I'm even trying to figure out if there's some way I can get bigger/stronger cylinders to do the same thing to my manual press.
if you're handy and mechanically inclined it's about $60 or so of parts per head to convert them. (assuming you go and buy the cylinders and pneumatic toggles direct from the manufacturers and not from the press manufacturers).
-J
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Servo lift is cool too.
Indeed it is. Sounds cool too when it lifts.
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I would think you could use a mechanical clamp system instead of screw down clamps. It can't be that hard to develop.
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Ok yall can stop bashing my Red team and wait and see what they come up with, I know some of you have had a bad experience with Anatol, but hey so have some people with other name companies gonna happen folks. Yall know I'm an Anatol fan gotta fin the team LOL....
Darryl
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Darryl - I had no intention on bashing them here, I thought I actually restrained myself pretty well!
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I forgot to add the quick-release button. Loosen the kip lever and hit the button so the spring raises the clamp lol. I have no idea how the kip lever would engage the shaft (heh heh) but I'm just a thinker, not a doer.
When I was a machinist I learned something that blew my mind at how simple it was and may apply here. If you drill a nut at an angle, you can just slip it on at that angle and then when it gets near the point you want to tighten, turn the nut perpendicular to the bolt and tighten as normal! Of course this isn't for applications that require high strength, but should work for this purpose. If you drilled the threads on this the right way, you would just have to push down on the handle to make it release the bolt.
Darryl, my post wasn't terribly friendly to Anatol, but it's sort of a general complaint about entry level presses in general. It seems to me that there are often far too many compromises made to make a press entry level. It sort of reminds me of what Porsche did with the cayman. They wanted a car that would hit a price point between the 911 and the boxster. So they built a car that was exactly halfway in between the two existing cars in terms of both performance and price. That's what this seems like to me. As in, while most entry level presses are made with the small shop in mind ie size and power requirements, it seems like some of them have features that aren't included that could help the small shop and seem like they are only left off to differentiate the entry level press from the more costly presses.
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Stu, I really just mess with folks about Anatol, but my Horizon Mini has a ton of good features found on some bigger presses. I got what I paid for and it has done a great job for me, but there must be something about the entry level and small presses' or M&R wouldn't brother building there own line. Can anatol step up the service yes they could, could they have more of an online present yes they could etc. I would buy another Anatol in a heart beat, I would also buy an M&R too, I think they both are fine companies with M&R having a go getter as there lead Dog.
Darryl
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I didn't mean all entry level presses necessarily. From what I can tell, you can get air choppers and AC heads on all the sRoque presses down to the least expensive. Though it sounds like there is a significant gap in price maybe?
I must say though, part of why I have this bent is partly from privilege. When it comes time to replace my american, I have all the electrics, air and space that I would need to run most any press, so my options can include less expensive used non-entry level presses.
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I forgot to add the quick-release button. Loosen the kip lever and hit the button so the spring raises the clamp lol. I have no idea how the kip lever would engage the shaft (heh heh) but I'm just a thinker, not a doer.
It's a decent idea. I've seen something similar in Parks headset/headtube tools. Check out an HTR-1, one side that threads on has a sprung female side, so you'd only have to turn the knob once or less to snug. Gotta make the interface long to handle that kind of torque though.
I'd think a cam system would be the fastest without using air/solenoids, but only if you're running all the same frame sizes/thicknesses...
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I didn't mean all entry level presses necessarily. From what I can tell, you can get air choppers and AC heads on all the sRoque presses down to the least expensive. Though it sounds like there is a significant gap in price maybe?
I must say though, part of why I have this bent is partly from privilege. When it comes time to replace my american, I have all the electrics, air and space that I would need to run most any press, so my options can include less expensive used non-entry level presses.
The least expensive S.Roque press the Amiga has pneumatic print heads, if you want it with AC heads it is then the YOU. They all have air choppers from what I know. They do not advertise a all electric press.
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They make a c clamp with a quick release that works similar to what you are saying.
http://www.harborfreight.com/hand-tools/clamps/6-inch-quick-release-c-clamp-4140.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/hand-tools/clamps/6-inch-quick-release-c-clamp-4140.html)
I have one, it's not without its flaws, but it is harbor freight. Push the button and the threads are disengaged, release and tighten.
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Yeah I have seen those. After a little re-(not)engineering. This attached pic is a better cheaper option. Double pinch buttons for two sided thread release and bump knob on top has either mini levers or some knurling to grip.
This is all really just me filling space until we get to see some more details on the Volt lol there's no way this thread was going to stay on topic without more juice!
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I've used these quick hold-down clamps for a couple projects.
Cheap and easy to operate... they'd hold a screen nicely, if you had the physical space.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Horizontal-Handle-Hold-Down-Clamp-11A050?cm_sp=IO-_-IDP-_-RR_VTV70300505&cm_vc=IDPRRZ1 (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Horizontal-Handle-Hold-Down-Clamp-11A050?cm_sp=IO-_-IDP-_-RR_VTV70300505&cm_vc=IDPRRZ1)
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Ok, changed the design again and have surpassed my 3D capabilities in illustrator. This one would be a quick release lever that you lift UP and it moves the opposite thread section away and allows the spring to pull the plunger up.
Bump the knurled knob down then snap lever DOWN to engage the threads and crank down. So a bump, bump, twist. This way, you don't run the risk of thread disengagement when cranking down if you overcome the previous design's spring tension holding the threads against the plunger. Check out the sweet dove-tailed slides lol:
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You guys are great, you are in the wrong business! Too smart to be screen printers! I thought screen printing was for college dropouts, stoners, and Pierre! ;D
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You guys are great, you are in the wrong business! Too smart to be screen printers! I thought screen printing was for college dropouts, stoners, and Pierre! ;D
just spit my coffee...thanks asshat hahah