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screen printing => Equipment => Topic started by: mimosatexas on October 28, 2013, 09:19:25 AM
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Anyone know any info on M&R's new entry level manual? http://www.mrprint.com/en/Textile%20Screen%20Printing%20Equipment/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/KRUZER%20Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Press (http://www.mrprint.com/en/Textile%20Screen%20Printing%20Equipment/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/KRUZER%20Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Press)
How is it different from the sidewinder? Price point? Micros? etc
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Anyone know any info on M&R's new entry level manual? [url]http://www.mrprint.com/en/Textile%20Screen%20Printing%20Equipment/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/KRUZER%20Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Press[/url] ([url]http://www.mrprint.com/en/Textile%20Screen%20Printing%20Equipment/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/KRUZER%20Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Press[/url])
How is it different from the sidewinder? Price point? Micros? etc
The Kruzer sells for $2,995.00 and comes with micro and side clamps and ONLY one model which is 6 color ,4 station. Press comes with the standard rubber coated solid aluminum pallets. The press is Tri-Loc compatible but cannot be purchased with air locks. The press is shipped disassembled with a video on how to assemble which should take 2-3 hours. If you want the machine assembled by M&R add $500.00 to the purchase price.
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That's a great price point!
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are the micros tool-less? besides the 6/4 configuration, how is it different from the sidewinder? I guess I'd like to know why it's half the cost.
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Looking at the pics on the site, I'm seeing:
the Sidewinder has an extra bracket/bar under the pallet which would probably give it a little extra strength (less flex)
More springs (4 as opposed to 2) which will probably allow for a bigger/heavier screen (it says it can take up to a 25"x36" as opposed to a max of 23"x31")
has off contact and screen angle adjust
is available, in both rear clamps or side clamps, and in configurations greater than 6/4
The Kruzer micros appear to be set up a little different
smaller foot print on the Kruzer.
So I'm guessing the Sidewinder is a beefier with better micros. Again, just a guess. But being made by M&R I would bet the Kruzer is of real good quality,
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good points on the arm supports and the extra springs. I would assume the kruzer has angle adjustment, it does say it has off contact adjustment, and without angle adjustment that would be kind of pointless. Any advantage to the back clamps over side clamps? I have always though side clamps were simply superior.
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took a 5 second (literally!) look at the Kruzer at the show and it looked like a very solid press! Definitely not a toy or anything you would buy if you are still curing shirts in the oven.
pierre
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That's a question I've been wondering lately (side clamp vs rear). My Vastex has rear clamps. I have an Anatol with side clamps that I've been "tuning up". It could just be what I'm used to, but I'm not seeing the advantage to the side clamps. Especially without air locks. I can see a nice advantage for name drops. I think I remember reading somewhere that the main advantage with side clamps was with older wooden screens. It's probably one of those things that whatever you are used to using, you like better.
I'd love to see one in person. I'm hoping to be adding an auto before the end of the year. If they are as nice as you would expect from M&R quality, I'd be very tempted to get rid of both my manuals and add that for small runs. I think it's the price tag that has me in amazement.
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are the micros tool-less? besides the 6/4 configuration, how is it different from the sidewinder? I guess I'd like to know why it's half the cost.
Its not as beefy as the Sidewinder as it is maxed out at 23X31 where you can go a little bigger on the frames in the Sidewinder. The press is only made in one configuration as well which minimizes custom sizes and allows for mass production..
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are the micros tool-less? besides the 6/4 configuration, how is it different from the sidewinder? I guess I'd like to know why it's half the cost.
Micro's are tool less.
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thanks for the info!
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Rich gave me the $5 tour of this new entry level press with much more than entry level features.
Solidly built, new spring lift system that makes changing springs a breeze, and most importantly from my perspective total platen interchangeability with all M&R equipment. When a shop buys this unit all the accessory platens they buy can be used on any future or past M&R purchase.
I see two great uses for this press, a large shop that wants to sit up a 'dedicated' press for oddball stuff, say printing zipper pocket locations on gear bags. Or the more likely purchaser is a small shop with aspirations for growth, they can buy this unit and not have additional tooling that will not size up to the next level.
Set-up is almost brainless, nobody should have to pay the $500 assembly charge, if you can turn a wrench or change a tire you have the skill set necessary to assemble the press.
I applaud M&R for addressing this market as it is a hard sell, lots of customer service required for a relatively low ticket price which means low commission for the sales guy. M&R is really addressing the future with the introduction of this unit. Lots of industry leaders would walk away from this market as not worth their time, kudos to Rich and the entire M&R organization!
~Kitson
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I am definitely in the "small shop with aspirations for growth" category. Currently it is basically me, though I have a partner (who has essentially become uninvolved) and I get help when needed on large and rush jobs from a few family and friends. I am still using a 6/2 Silver Press, which I have modified in a number of ways as needed and have been making my own platens for all kinds of specialized stuff. The rest of my shop has been upgraded around this press to the point that it is now the bottleneck (specifically when it comes to registering jobs, and to a lesser extent due to only having 2 stations). I still put out great work, process and butt registration isnt an issue after it's registered, but sometimes it can be a slow process...
When you say the platens are interchangeable, does that mean I could buy quick release 16x22 platens from m&r that would be usable on an auto down the road? I'm assuming triloc would be pointless with manually adjusted side clamps...
Does anyone have a link to a site that lists the available m&r platens and accessories. All of the distributors I am finding through their site or through google don't actually list anything.
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That's a question I've been wondering lately (side clamp vs rear). My Vastex has rear clamps. I have an Anatol with side clamps that I've been "tuning up". It could just be what I'm used to, but I'm not seeing the advantage to the side clamps. Especially without air locks. I can see a nice advantage for name drops. I think I remember reading somewhere that the main advantage with side clamps was with older wooden screens. It's probably one of those things that whatever you are used to using, you like better.
I'd love to see one in person. I'm hoping to be adding an auto before the end of the year. If they are as nice as you would expect from M&R quality, I'd be very tempted to get rid of both my manuals and add that for small runs. I think it's the price tag that has me in amazement.
For what it's worth Shane, I started with side clamps, used some rear clamps, and you're right, for wooden frames, the frame would eventually break down on the rear clamps. However, I wouldn't even consider a rear clamp machine anymore... maybe it's what I'm used to (I really don't pull a squeegee anymore) but all of our printers feel the same about it.
Steve
Steve
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I am definitely in the "small shop with aspirations for growth" category. Currently it is basically me, though I have a partner (who has essentially become uninvolved) and I get help when needed on large and rush jobs from a few family and friends. I am still using a 6/2 Silver Press, which I have modified in a number of ways as needed and have been making my own platens for all kinds of specialized stuff. The rest of my shop has been upgraded around this press to the point that it is now the bottleneck (specifically when it comes to registering jobs, and to a lesser extent due to only having 2 stations). I still put out great work, process and butt registration isnt an issue after it's registered, but sometimes it can be a slow process...
When you say the platens are interchangeable, does that mean I could buy quick release 16x22 platens from m&r that would be usable on an auto down the road? I'm assuming triloc would be pointless with manually adjusted side clamps...
Does anyone have a link to a site that lists the available m&r platens and accessories. All of the distributors I am finding through their site or through google don't actually list anything.
the Kruzer is TriLoc compatible! A preregistration system is probably one of the best investments you can make in your shop.
pierre
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Does anyone have a link to a site that lists the available m&r platens and accessories. All of the distributors I am finding through their site or through google don't actually list anything.
m&rprint.com/store/accesories/pallets
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the Kruzer is TriLoc compatible! A preregistration system is probably one of the best investments you can make in your shop.
pierre
I have my own diy pre-reg unit/system. I have an "L" of 1/4" metal adhered to the glass on my exposure unit. I use small "+" marks on my films that act as both on press registration (if needed) and I register the films to themselves with tape on alternating sides between screens. Basically I measure and tape down the first film. Put the screen against the L, expose, take the screen off, line up the next film and tape. Usually I can get the majority of the screens pixel perfect on press by printing the first color, flashing, and lining successive screens up to the marks. I keep my micros zeroed and the screens are essentially already registered. Out of a 6 color job I may have to nudge 2 or 3 of the screens, but on the Silver Press even two screens out of register can take a while due to the weird micros (4 lock downs, iffy side to side movement). Having an equivalent "L" on press would speed it up a bit, but the real slow down is from the bad micros.
I was under the impression the tri-loc really won't be a huge improvement over a DIY system unless you have air locs that completely eliminate play when locking the screen.
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Thanks Frog! Found their store after poking around a bit more. They need to make the link more prominent...
https://store.mrprint.com/mr_pls/oos_catalog_pkg.shop?pid=Aluminum-Pallets
Another couple of questions:
Looking at the pallets, how exactly are they connected to the arms of the press? It looks like they just have a channel, and the locking mechanism is on the press. I have seen videos with quick release connections on some of the newer autos, but what system does the kruzer use? Is it upgradable to some form of quick release? I find I change pallets often for different types of jobs. kids vs koozies vs sleeves vs oversized prints etc.
Another question I had is a little hard to articulate. On my current press, the bracket on the bottom of the pallets is locked into place by a central bolt on the side and on the bottom. The pallet arm is only long enough that the pallet can be adjusted in or out about 6 inches before either the pallet is under the clamp (messing with things like off contact, putting pressure on the garment, etc) or is too far out to tighten the bolt. This isn't a big deal for more jobs with central placement, but it has been an issue at times when wanting to center and image on the screen for registration reasons while printing on odd locations. I often wish the arm itself was 6-8" longer. How much adjustment is there when it comes to the location of the pallet on the arm? If this issue isn't clear, let me know and I will try to explain it better (maybe even with diagrams!).
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One of the goals of M&R from the beginning was to use as many interchangeable parts as possible. While that proved harder than it looked as models and configurations changed continually, the pallets have always beeen interchangeable on all models from Blue Maxes to Formulas to Alpha 8s etc. In the beginning one used 9/16" wrenches to add/remove pallets but that was soon replaced with quick release.
This to the BOMK
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So the quick release is the default? awesome.
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I am not certain about this as I haven't tried it out yet, but I believe the M&R standardization goes all the way back to the American brand machines. At least it does for squeegee holders, floodbars and clamps. So if you could use the American platens, that would open up more opportunities for used equipment.
Regarding side clamps, being able to use M3 style frames is a plus for me, pretty sure this is at least difficult to do if not impossible with a rear clamp press.
Looks like a nice press, if I were looking for a small manual, I would probably get this instead of looking for a used press. What's the lead time? Are they ready to ship?
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Good question on lead time. Definitely curious about that. The m3's are all round correct? This would be a great feature to allow upgrading to re-tensionable frames in anticipation of a future auto.
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the Kruzer is TriLoc compatible! A preregistration system is probably one of the best investments you can make in your shop.
pierre
I have my own diy pre-reg unit/system. I have an "L" of 1/4" metal adhered to the glass on my exposure unit. I use small "+" marks on my films that act as both on press registration (if needed) and I register the films to themselves with tape on alternating sides between screens. Basically I measure and tape down the first film. Put the screen against the L, expose, take the screen off, line up the next film and tape. Usually I can get the majority of the screens pixel perfect on press by printing the first color, flashing, and lining successive screens up to the marks. I keep my micros zeroed and the screens are essentially already registered. Out of a 6 color job I may have to nudge 2 or 3 of the screens, but on the Silver Press even two screens out of register can take a while due to the weird micros (4 lock downs, iffy side to side movement). Having an equivalent "L" on press would speed it up a bit, but the real slow down is from the bad micros.
I was under the impression the tri-loc really won't be a huge improvement over a DIY system unless you have air locks that completely eliminate play when locking the screen.
You are incorrect. The Tri-Loc will work fine on the Kruzer and we are setting up 6 colors of butt to butt register, zero trap in under two minutes. We are not microing the job as it is coming out perfect but IF we had to it would only take a couple seconds. This press is about a million miles from the press you quote so I now see why all the questions. Its way better and 100% guaranteed too so just order and return if you don't like it. You wont be returning it for sure!
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Haha! I have no doubt it is worlds better than the silver press. I was parroting something I had read about tri-loc in another thread here, relating to manual side clamps and movement on lockdown.
As a rep for m&r, is there any reason to order from the local distributor listed on your site vs directly from you? They don't have the kruzer listed on their site?
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Haha! I have no doubt it is worlds better than the silver press. I was parroting something I had read about tri-loc in another thread here, relating to manual side clamps and movement on lockdown.
As a rep for m&r, is there any reason to order from the local distributor listed on your site vs directly from you? They don't have the kruzer listed on their site?
The Kruzer is so new the distributors just saw it for the first time last week. Pricing will be the same regardless of where you order it. Our distributors have already locked up the first 100 units so delivery might be faster from them.
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I just saw this press yesterday! wow is all I can say...I think it will sweep the market. it has a lot of features for being so inexpensive. on another note if it is an M&R it is tri-locable ( if that is a word) but it is sweet especially since it will ship UPS and cost under 3k. really?
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Yeah I dont see why anyone shopping for a 6/4 would buy anything else. Nothing touches it in that price range.
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I checked it out at SGIA, its super nice, for that price, look no further.
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This to the BOMK
Tony, This looks like a stock market ID to me but I feel sure that BOMK stands for something else, can you enlighten an old rag printer?
~Kitson
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Best Of My Knowledge...............which isn't much!
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Hey, though they are still difficult to figure out or remember all at first, I'll take one of these acronyms over the drunken-slurring-sounding abbreviation "prolly", any day!
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Seems like a very good value.
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Looks promising, any vids on it yet? ;)
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Not that I've found. I've been looking around at other forums etc, but not much info out there.
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Wow, ships UPS, that's impressive. If you don't find a good press used, this sounds like a great one new for about the same cash.
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Finally a video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG0c6KFsZo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG0c6KFsZo#ws)
The quick zero micros and ruled arms are great features on top of the already toolless micros, quick release and universal pallets, etc. I had a rep from GSG contact me and stop by my shop last week, I'm assuming at the request of someone from M&R who saw my interest in this thread. I was pretty impressed that the guy spent over an hour talking shop with me, despite being essentially a part time one man operation without deep pockets.
I think between that and the features I'm seeing on this press I'm going to buy one within a week or two. Still need to figure out if I should finance it or buy it outright. $3k and change isn't really a lot of money, but having free capital is always helpful and an $80-100 a month payment really isn't something I would even have to worry about... Anyone have thoughts on that aspect of it? I believe the rep mentioned Geneva for the financing, which I've seen mentioned, though I don't recall what others said about the experience.
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Finally a video: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG0c6KFsZo]www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG0c6KFsZo[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG0c6KFsZo#ws[/url])
The quick zero micros and ruled arms are great features on top of the already toolless micros, quick release and universal pallets, etc. I had a rep from GSG contact me and stop by my shop last week, I'm assuming at the request of someone from M&R who saw my interest in this thread. I was pretty impressed that the guy spent over an hour talking shop with me, despite being essentially a part time one man operation without deep pockets.
I think between that and the features I'm seeing on this press I'm going to buy one within a week or two. Still need to figure out if I should finance it or buy it outright. $3k and change isn't really a lot of money, but having free capital is always helpful and an $80-100 a month payment really isn't something I would even have to worry about... Anyone have thoughts on that aspect of it? I believe the rep mentioned Geneva for the financing, which I've seen mentioned, though I don't recall what others said about the experience.
just an FYI. Two weeks to decide will be 6 weeks additional delivery. Way too many initial orders!
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Finally a video: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG0c6KFsZo]www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG0c6KFsZo[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTG0c6KFsZo#ws[/url])
The quick zero micros and ruled arms are great features on top of the already toolless micros, quick release and universal pallets, etc. I had a rep from GSG contact me and stop by my shop last week, I'm assuming at the request of someone from M&R who saw my interest in this thread. I was pretty impressed that the guy spent over an hour talking shop with me, despite being essentially a part time one man operation without deep pockets.
I think between that and the features I'm seeing on this press I'm going to buy one within a week or two. Still need to figure out if I should finance it or buy it outright. $3k and change isn't really a lot of money, but having free capital is always helpful and an $80-100 a month payment really isn't something I would even have to worry about... Anyone have thoughts on that aspect of it? I believe the rep mentioned Geneva for the financing, which I've seen mentioned, though I don't recall what others said about the experience.
I think it's a no brainer
I wouldn't mind having one myself but the additional investment of youth and sleeve platens would be somewhat prohibitive but then again they can be used on the automatic as well.
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well rich, you can fix your lead times one of 2 ways....ramp up production...or stop building stuff that people want to buy. ;)
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Honestly, I would order it tomorrow, but I haven't heard back about what all the leasing/financing entails. I would buy it outright, but having that money freed up for other immediate upgrades is pretty appealing vs a few hundred bucks in interest spread over 3 years.
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Out of curiosity, is it possible to order the press with different pallets? I would literally never use 15x17's. I built 16x24's for my current press and only switch them out when doing youth Smalls/Mediums (10x20) or koozies/sleeves.
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personally, i'd finance it if there wasn't a credit check...i hate getting dinged on that, but using other people's money to help pay for your equipment is a smart move.
I financed our used auto in Jan, I already paid it off. Make sure there isn't an early payment penalty.
I would get 16x22's personally.
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16x22 would probably be fine. We do a lot of big work for a few clients and do occasionally have 23" long prints on L-2XL's, but it isn't common. We do a ton of work in the 19-20" range though.
My business doesnt really have credit. I don't have a business credit card and I am only on terms with one supplier. I have always paid cash outright for everything, and buy used or build basically everything. This would actually be a our first "big" purchase, and I would assume I will be using my personal credit history if I go the financing route. I don't own a home, but I do have a handful of credit cards and pay my bills on time. My credit isn't great, but it isn't terrible. Not sure what would be required really by GSG/Geneva...
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16x22 would probably be fine. We do a lot of big work for a few clients and do occasionally have 23" long prints on L-2XL's, but it isn't common. We do a ton of work in the 19-20" range though.
My business doesnt really have credit. I don't have a business credit card and I am only on terms with one supplier. I have always paid cash outright for everything, and buy used or build basically everything. This would actually be a our first "big" purchase, and I would assume I will be using my personal credit history if I go the financing route. I don't own a home, but I do have a handful of credit cards and pay my bills on time. My credit isn't great, but it isn't terrible. Not sure what would be required really by GSG/Geneva...
I would start building credit now. It will come in handy some day when you are buying machines that are much larger than most can afford in "cash". Build it now so it will be perfect and ready when you need it.
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I agree, I just haven't had the opportunity really. That's actually another reason I'd like to finance this machine through the business if possible. I am going to probably switch to terms with a few more suppliers as well. This is probably derailing the thread a bit and maybe a new one should be started in a different subforum, but does anyone have any tips on how to build credit specifically for the business?
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I agree, I just haven't had the opportunity really. That's actually another reason I'd like to finance this machine through the business if possible. I am going to probably switch to terms with a few more suppliers as well. This is probably derailing the thread a bit and maybe a new one should be started in a different subforum, but does anyone have any tips on how to build credit specifically for the business?
Id get a business credit card and start using that. We use Amex for all business purchases and we have got 550k points in the last 12 months with it. Which is free money basically.
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well rich, you can fix your lead times one of 2 ways....ramp up production...or stop building stuff that people want to buy. ;)
At this price only so much production time will be allocated!
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The video makes me like this even more!
Rich, question on the off contact adjustment. It looks really sweet, a true off contact adjustment that maintains pitch. There looks to be a lever on each side, do they work in sync with each other, maintaining the screen angle (left to right)?
Also, is it possible to get it with 16x22 pallets instead of the 15x17's?
Hat's off to you Rich, the quality looks great on this!
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I was wondering if it can be ordered without pallets to save some money.
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I think there is going to be a lot of pissed off manufacturers of dinky entry level manual presses out there because there is almost zero incentive to buy something besides this press if you're on a budget and need to get started.
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Yup, looks pretty solid! I'd love to see something one day with the micros out further from each other to reduce screen swing, but that's just nit-picking. I love that it's a side-clamp, which almost completely eliminates the need for screen pitch adjustments. Can it be set-up so opposing heads can both be down at the same time for 2-person printing?
Good job M&R! I foresee other companies dropping prices to compete in the near future.
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I think there is going to be a lot of pissed off manufacturers of dinky entry level manual presses out there because there is almost zero incentive to buy something besides this press if you're on a budget and need to get started.
Agreed.
It also seems like the perfect complimentary manual for a small auto shop.
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I have not got my hands dirty since the late 70s (outsourced since then) but watching this video has me "itchy".......
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Id get a business credit card and start using that. We use Amex for all business purchases and we have got 550k points in the last 12 months with it. Which is free money basically.
Not really.....Suppliers build this into the prices you pay....Some suppliers will give you 2% to 5% off if you do not use a credit card...
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The video makes me like this even more!
Rich, question on the off contact adjustment. It looks really sweet, a true off contact adjustment that maintains pitch. There looks to be a lever on each side, do they work in sync with each other, maintaining the screen angle (left to right)?
Also, is it possible to get it with 16x22 pallets instead of the 15x17's?
Hat's off to you Rich, the quality looks great on this!
The levers work independently of each other. You can pay the difference on the pallets and equip the machine with 16X22 if you so desire.
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I was wondering if it can be ordered without pallets to save some money.
Absolutely not!
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Hey Rich, do you have one of these set up so I could come in and try it?
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Hey Rich, do you have one of these set up so I could come in and try it?
yes we do. In our Niles facility.
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Niles huh....... I may have to make the trip some morning after I get off work. That press looks 1000 times better than my press.
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Anyone know any info on M&R's new entry level manual? [url]http://www.mrprint.com/en/Textile%20Screen%20Printing%20Equipment/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/KRUZER%20Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Press[/url] ([url]http://www.mrprint.com/en/Textile%20Screen%20Printing%20Equipment/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/KRUZER%20Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Press[/url])
How is it different from the sidewinder? Price point? Micros? etc
The Kruzer sells for $2,995.00 and comes with micro and side clamps and ONLY one model which is 6 color ,4 station. Press comes with the standard rubber coated solid aluminum pallets. The press is Tri-Loc compatible but cannot be purchased with air locks. The press is shipped disassembled with a video on how to assemble which should take 2-3 hours. If you want the machine assembled by M&R add $500.00 to the purchase price.
Hey Rich, my Kruzer just got delivered today! You mentioned above that it ships with a video? I just got a manual with it. I was able to get through the build easily enough with the manual, but I'm running into trouble trying to get the pallets leveled....I'm having to lower them all the way and it's still not enough. I'm not sure if I did something wrong in assembly or if there's something going on with the press itself. Should there have been a video with it? I had to make a side-to-side adjustment to the registration fin pieces to get the heads to lower into the gates properly...that wasn't mentioned in the manual so I'm wondering if there are other setup steps that I'm missing.
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Fin pieces? Can you post pics? I have a kruzer and i dont understand what the issue is from your description.
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I won't be at the shop until later tonight, but I'll try to grab some pics of my press while I'm there. I'm talking about the piece that lowers into the bearings. There may be differences between my Kruzer and yours, mine looks a bit different than the pics you posted in your other thread. They must have reengineered a few things. On mine that piece that lowers into the bearings was way far over on all but one head. So far over that the actual print arms were hitting the reg gate and not allowing it to seat fully. I called M&R and they told me to loosen the bolts that hold the fin to the arm, lower the head into the gate, and retighten. That fixed it. I was just wondering if there was another adjustment I was missing that isn't in the manual because I can't get the pallets to level. I had to lower them all the way and they're still not low enough. I got one pallet to just barely level with head #1, but then if I move head #2 (or any of the others) to the same pallet it's way off. And I can't get any of the other pallets to level to head #1. Did your press ship with a video?
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Anyone know any info on M&R's new entry level manual? [url]http://www.mrprint.com/en/Textile%20Screen%20Printing%20Equipment/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/KRUZER%20Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Press[/url] ([url]http://www.mrprint.com/en/Textile%20Screen%20Printing%20Equipment/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/KRUZER%20Manual%20Screen%20Printing%20Press[/url])
How is it different from the sidewinder? Price point? Micros? etc
The Kruzer sells for $2,995.00 and comes with micro and side clamps and ONLY one model which is 6 color ,4 station. Press comes with the standard rubber coated solid aluminum pallets. The press is Tri-Loc compatible but cannot be purchased with air locks. The press is shipped disassembled with a video on how to assemble which should take 2-3 hours. If you want the machine assembled by M&R add $500.00 to the purchase price.
Hey Rich, my Kruzer just got delivered today! You mentioned above that it ships with a video? I just got a manual with it. I was able to get through the build easily enough with the manual, but I'm running into trouble trying to get the pallets leveled....I'm having to lower them all the way and it's still not enough. I'm not sure if I did something wrong in assembly or if there's something going on with the press itself. Should there have been a video with it? I had to make a side-to-side adjustment to the registration fin pieces to get the heads to lower into the gates properly...that wasn't mentioned in the manual so I'm wondering if there are other setup steps that I'm missing.
We will eventually make a video but they are not available yet. The fin you speak of is the steel guide that goes between the registration bearings. ThAt is not usually moved during assembly. I will check with service and see what went wrong on assembly that made you move this.
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Thanks for the reply Rich. Much appreciated. Yeah, all but one of them needed to be adjusted. All but one were coming down with the side of the print arm banging the top of the registration gate on one side. After loosening the bolts that hold the steel guide to the arms, lowering the guide into the bearings, and re-tightening the bolts that problem is fixed. The big concern I have right now is the pallet leveling....can only get one pallet leveled, but then the next print head won't be level with that pallet. I've tried using another print head to level to and can't get any of the pallets to level with it....they all need to be adjusted lower than they'll go. Is there some kind of adjustment that can be done to the side clamps or the side clamp mounting bar? I took all the pallets off and measured from the bottom of the print arm to the top of the pallet arm on all the arms to make sure the distance was the same on all the heads/arms...it is. So I feel like theres got to be something going on with the side clamp mounting bar. I took the side clamps off of the one head that I was able to get a pallet leveled to (lets call it head #1) and moved them to another head, then put the side clamps from that head onto head #1. Head #1 was still level. That tells me it isn't the side clamps themselves, but might be the mounting bar....or the heads themselves (hopefully not). Any help you can provide would be awesome. Can't wait to get this thing up and running!
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Hello BLKRTS,
I spoke with you yesterday about the registration forks. Give me a call when you can and we can go over checking level on the heads and how to adjust them and level the pallets.
Regards, Andy da Silva.