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screen printing => Screen Making => Topic started by: blue moon on November 18, 2013, 04:47:43 PM

Title: New toy!
Post by: blue moon on November 18, 2013, 04:47:43 PM
More work with Richard on Wed and I am getting ready. EOM meter just came in this morning!

pierre
Title: Re: New toy!
Post by: ZooCity on November 18, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
Awesome.  You guys are going to be a screen making powerhouse after working with Richard. 
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Post by: tancehughes on November 18, 2013, 04:59:54 PM
We have one of those, you are definitely going to like it. It helps you pull down some really good exposure times.
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Post by: alan802 on November 18, 2013, 06:33:16 PM
If you're like me, you'll be measuring every little thing in the shop.  I know the thickness of just about everything on my desk.  And it's good for screens too :)
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Post by: Gilligan on November 18, 2013, 10:23:19 PM
Surprised you didn't have one already... Super helpful!
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Post by: ScreenPrinter123 on November 18, 2013, 10:58:10 PM
Misread..... ;D
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Post by: TCT on November 18, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
Where did you pick that bad boy up?
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Post by: GraphicDisorder on November 19, 2013, 07:10:49 AM
Proof you don't need every wiz bang tool to put out award winning work.  But I am sure this will make you even better. 
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Post by: ericheartsu on November 19, 2013, 09:10:03 AM
what is the official name of this again?
Title: Re: New toy!
Post by: blue moon on November 19, 2013, 09:15:43 AM
got it on ebay, was about $120 delivered (from China).

EOM meter is not very likely to improve our top of the line prints, but it will help with consistency and predictability. This is a long term investment that should remove some surprises when different ppl coat. It will also let us fine tune the exposure times for specific mesh and now EOM too. If somebody else coats the screens, we will be able to take the reading and adjust the exposure time accordingly! 'just taking out the guess work. . .

pierre
Title: Re: New toy!
Post by: tonypep on November 19, 2013, 09:34:25 AM
This helps with consistency between individuals. We call it the semi automatic. Uses a hatch back hydraulic shock to hold in place. Can handle 23/31s and 25x 36s without adjustment.
Title: Re: New toy!
Post by: blue moon on November 19, 2013, 09:36:56 AM
what is the official name of this again?

sorry,

EOM stands for Emulsion Over Mesh meter. It measures the thickness of the emulsion.

pierre
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Post by: ericheartsu on November 19, 2013, 09:56:32 AM
ha i thought there was a different name for it like a stencil gauge or something like that
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Post by: Gilligan on November 19, 2013, 10:08:41 AM
Paint thickness gauge.
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Post by: GaryG on November 19, 2013, 10:55:28 AM
Yeah if it was called an "EOM" gauge it would cost $1200.  ???
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Post by: alan802 on November 19, 2013, 10:58:12 AM
Just like a lot of things we use in this industry it was originally used for what Gilly said.  Measuring paint thickness on cars.  They can be had for really cheap or over $1,000.  I've tested mine up against a $1000 unit and it was very accurate.  Ours is a different model than Pierre's but I bet they both work equally well.  If you use the glisten method and have proper speed and pressure with the scoop coater you'll be in the right range for EOM but we still use our meter all the time.  I test our coated screens so I can see if my guy is doing them right without having to sit there and watch him.  I find screens all the time where he forgot what coat he was on and either over coated or under coated a screen and I let him know about it.  I can also tell when he's coating too fast.  The EOM meter won't necessarily make your prints better but it will help dial in a lot of variables that you may or may not be doing right.  But with it, at least you'll know where you are and what you need to do to get things to their optimum level. 

The way I look at some of these tools is whatever gets us great quality prints with the least amount of work possible is what I'll use.  Now my squeegee durometer tester doesn't do much for the overall operation but it didn't cost much so it is just a cool toy to have.  The loupe, tension meter and thickness gauge do get used quite often around here.
Title: Re: New toy!
Post by: Gilligan on November 19, 2013, 11:49:08 AM
Same here, different model... but repeated testing seems like it's accurate.  Mine came with calibration "stock" and they all tested within enough spec for what we are doing.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/316UyCxgneL.jpg)
Title: Re: New toy!
Post by: ZooCity on November 19, 2013, 03:09:31 PM
What's the mill range to look for in one of these?  I want one.  We're going to try switching coaters and it would be really handy. 
Title: Re: New toy!
Post by: blue moon on November 19, 2013, 03:15:42 PM
What's the mill range to look for in one of these?  I want one.  We're going to try switching coaters and it would be really handy.


this one is probably quite a bit more than needed, but hey if you ever decide to do 3D, this will do it for you!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181249522828?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/181249522828?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)

pierre

p.s. if there are more ppl interested we might be able to talk them into a lower price. . .
Title: Re: New toy!
Post by: Gilligan on November 19, 2013, 03:46:46 PM
Get the price down and I'd be willing to have a 2nd one/checks and balances in the shop.
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Post by: ericheartsu on November 19, 2013, 04:21:24 PM
i'd be in on this