Hey gang hope business is picking up for everyone, question how often do you al clean your flash unit's? I will say I don't clean mine as I should because today I got my air hose and did a little cleaning before we started printing, I couldn't believe at all the dust it had built up.  Yet total fire hazard as a fellow printer had his shop go up in flames because of a flash unit, so hey just a little friendly reminder clean your flash unit's some of you have pretty nice size shop's with lot's of flash unit's with fan's and those blades get plenty of build up.   

It was in reference to the M&R Global brand manufactured by DCC group in Mumbai, India since you talked about a new equipment decision in the future and you preferred
M&R. I had seen the M&R Global machines a couple of years ago, but did not know much about them. About 9 months ago, I was asked as a favor, if I could install a Copperhead
Charge infrared dryer that had been purchased at last years Print United Show in Las Vegas from one of M&R’s largest dealer, but had been waiting quite a good while for an install. The customer was getting nervous, because it was taking awhile. I said of course I will help you, but why dont your guys install it. The priority was not on the M&R Global
Brand for whatever reason. So I said yes, although a big red flag entered my mind. What was I walking into? He said I would have access to engineers in India should the need arise. The machine had been operating 100% at show. I made plans with their customer
To do the install. I asked for the Manual to see if there was any info/schematics on the machine overnight for next day install. Manual was the best I have seen anywhere! Got the machine in place and put together. Through the process of the build I noticed the quality of the design, thought, construction. Upon install, turned machine on, and no go.
Called contact at M&R and told I needed to talk with someone at M&R to troubleshoot.
Was told no one there was available that new about this machine. Need to talk to India.
2:00 pm my time, 2:00am next day in India. Tech returned a call in 10 min. Some wires
Had been reversed on decomission from show. Go figure! Tech was very polite. I normally wait around for watching machine ti operate and function correctly. Talking with my other partner on install , i asked what is your opinion of dryer. She has sharper eyes than I do.
She was blown away with detail and quality of machine also. It was installed right next to  an M&R Fusion dryer. Identical class, similar specs. I was calked contact at M&R and told him all is good.Was asked what I thought about the Global Charge dryer. My response was, no offense, but the should be building your equipment. A nervous laugh, not expecting my response. Quality is top notch. I asked what else they built and was told all kinds that some sold here, but most not. I told him I would like to see all if possible and was asked If  I would like to come to see the factory and give an honest opinion. They paid flights, rooms, and the best part! The food. Wow 24-30 hours 12 time zones each way. 3 1/2 days non stop with 3 engineres  at my side at all times. I was blown away with the quality of the build, and the pricepoint of machines. They will be at Print United
In Orlando. I would suggest a stop at booth and see for yourself
Nuff said!
Winston

Thanks for all the info! Yeah just from talking with other printers who have used tons of different machine brands/types, most tend to say that M&R should be the highest quality option. I suppose that would explain their top pricing too! lol

So say I do migrate to M&R, how do I ensure the machines I buy are built in the better factory in India? From the sounds of it, its just specific items made there, and others are made in the US?

About the food in India, you are a lucky man! Indian cuisine is by far my favorite. Lamb Vindaloo is my go-to dish accompanied by some of those Samosas! That stuff is soooooo good. The complexity in those flavors is unmatched by anything else I have ever had. That flavor depth is unreal. Now I need to go to India!

Off topic but the Copperhead is basically a blue ROQ

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

It was in reference to the M&R Global brand manufactured by DCC group in Mumbai, India since you talked about a new equipment decision in the future and you preferred
M&R. I had seen the M&R Global machines a couple of years ago, but did not know much about them. About 9 months ago, I was asked as a favor, if I could install a Copperhead
Charge infrared dryer that had been purchased at last years Print United Show in Las Vegas from one of M&R’s largest dealer, but had been waiting quite a good while for an install. The customer was getting nervous, because it was taking awhile. I said of course I will help you, but why dont your guys install it. The priority was not on the M&R Global
Brand for whatever reason. So I said yes, although a big red flag entered my mind. What was I walking into? He said I would have access to engineers in India should the need arise. The machine had been operating 100% at show. I made plans with their customer
To do the install. I asked for the Manual to see if there was any info/schematics on the machine overnight for next day install. Manual was the best I have seen anywhere! Got the machine in place and put together. Through the process of the build I noticed the quality of the design, thought, construction. Upon install, turned machine on, and no go.
Called contact at M&R and told I needed to talk with someone at M&R to troubleshoot.
Was told no one there was available that new about this machine. Need to talk to India.
2:00 pm my time, 2:00am next day in India. Tech returned a call in 10 min. Some wires
Had been reversed on decomission from show. Go figure! Tech was very polite. I normally wait around for watching machine ti operate and function correctly. Talking with my other partner on install , i asked what is your opinion of dryer. She has sharper eyes than I do.
She was blown away with detail and quality of machine also. It was installed right next to  an M&R Fusion dryer. Identical class, similar specs. I was calked contact at M&R and told him all is good.Was asked what I thought about the Global Charge dryer. My response was, no offense, but the should be building your equipment. A nervous laugh, not expecting my response. Quality is top notch. I asked what else they built and was told all kinds that some sold here, but most not. I told him I would like to see all if possible and was asked If  I would like to come to see the factory and give an honest opinion. They paid flights, rooms, and the best part! The food. Wow 24-30 hours 12 time zones each way. 3 1/2 days non stop with 3 engineres  at my side at all times. I was blown away with the quality of the build, and the pricepoint of machines. They will be at Print United
In Orlando. I would suggest a stop at booth and see for yourself
Nuff said!
Winston

I agree with 3 Deep/ Daryl!
Also understand your frustration with things not being what you expect.
In the current industry melt down, the horse that you are cussing, might
Just save your azz in the future. From  someone who knows all the brand
From the inside to the out, Anatol is a brand I would consider. If you prefer
M&R, I would look at the M&R Global brand, that is built by a company called
DCC. Made in India, marketed by M&R as of now in the USA. I returned from India 2 weeks ago to give them (DCC) my honest opinion of their equipment As with Anatol
I like the fact that they are privately owned. Not a fan of companies in this industry.
I travel and operate with an open mind. My only stipulation, was that I have full acess
To the machines from the beginning to the end. I want to see anf feel the construction.
I was blown away!  I dont have a dog in the fight, but if I did it would be with them.
As far as  over cureing ink on flashes, it is called Intercoat adhesion failure. Call your ink co that you use and they will guide you. It is real.it is good, that you have a lot of smart
People on this board that are willing to help and guide you! Dont sweat the small stuff.
Good luck
Winston
904.3430848

Thank you for the reply! I actually love my Anatol Thunder manual press, well except for the powder coating flaking off without any abrasion against it. Also some of the micros knobs turn like butter and others are stiff. Been that way since it was delivered. Ive got friends who are printers and their Anatol manuals also have the smooth and stiff micros knobs. Guess thats just how it is. That jacket hold down though, seems like it should be pretty easy.


When you say you were blown away, and if you had a dog in the fight, it would be with them, youre referring to Anatol?

Although it will take extra time which needs to be factored into pricing, steaming after the fact has been a long-time standard finishing touch, especially when end product is to used for re-sale.

Yeah I have just started doing this, but I am determined to find a way to eliminate this extra step. How do you do the steaming? Do you spray the edges of the marks with a mist from sprayer and run them through a conveyor dryer?

I assume pressing again wont work as the steam will not have anywhere to escape?