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Not to be a debbie downer but I don't see this ever actually working well, and I also think it's kind of important to have human brains in the process.
My guess would be if they aren't using machine vision in the offset world already (which would be 1000 times easier to implement) than we won't ever see it in ours.
Like a lot of things.

^^^^ This.

Also keep in mind in general this industry is ULTRA slow to adopt anything. Think about how many are still on manual presses, still have flo bulb exposure and still wash screens in a kitchen sink. Its wild. More of those by far than modern shops.
This is not for everybody! There are two ppl already interested on some level. If we can get 3-4 to band together, we can make this work.
As far as making it happen, we dont pay until we have results. AI and machine learning has come a long way in the last couple of years and based on what I know, it SHOULD be possible.
Yes, the human brain will still be involved, they have to set up the press and will not be asking for approval unless its ready. This is a tool to back up a human rather than to take over. All our prints go to art for approval and almost all of them are good to go, but every now and then, something is not right. This tool would catch those issues with about 90% certainty. No tool is perfect, but it should help.
Pierre
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what about a tablet on press or end of the dryer? or even a webcam. have a stand alone platen with camera overhead, I know colors shift on screen but might close? We use webcams here for a few things, mostly inappropriate though.... Or a pneumatic conveyor like the bank teller, roll the shirt up, stuff it in the tube and send it!..... AI sounds neat and inspector gadgety and all, but sometimes multiple eyes on cannot be replaced.
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Computers and Software - General / Re: Mac upgrades
« Last post by bimmridder on October 16, 2025, 12:21:13 PM »
What I was give...iMacs, 3.6 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9 and 4.2 GHz Quad Core Intel Core i7. Graphics-Radeon Pro Vega 48 8 GB. Memory 64 GB 2667 MHz DDR4, SSD. All of which means nothing to me.
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Not to be a debbie downer but I don't see this ever actually working well, and I also think it's kind of important to have human brains in the process.
My guess would be if they aren't using machine vision in the offset world already (which would be 1000 times easier to implement) than we won't ever see it in ours.
Like a lot of things.

^^^^ This.

Also keep in mind in general this industry is ULTRA slow to adopt anything. Think about how many are still on manual presses, still have flo bulb exposure and still wash screens in a kitchen sink. Its wild. More of those by far than modern shops.



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General Discussion and ??? / Re: Are we at the Mercy of Greed?
« Last post by GraphicDisorder on October 16, 2025, 12:15:09 PM »
I mean its free upgrade if you are already on Windows 10, so its not exactly a cash grab but it definitely is a disruption.

It took me like 5 trys to get Win 11 installed on my rig at the shop, which is a i9 with 128gb of ram and a 4080 and over 20tb of hard drive space and it just would not take for whatever reason. Finally got it to take Tuesday. Now other computers have went much easier but ya dumb over all.

I agree with EB on the ad's too, not a fan. Windows in general as you mentioned is getting worse and has for some time.
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Equipment / Re: Dual Heat Press
« Last post by ebscreen on October 16, 2025, 12:09:16 PM »
No experience and I bet they work great but unless it's basically impossible to run an air line I would stick with pneumatic.
Hydraulic machines are going to have a lot more moving parts to wear out/diagnose.
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Not to be a debbie downer but I don't see this ever actually working well, and I also think it's kind of important to have human brains in the process.
My guess would be if they aren't using machine vision in the offset world already (which would be 1000 times easier to implement) than we won't ever see it in ours.
Like a lot of things.
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General Discussion and ??? / Re: Are we at the Mercy of Greed?
« Last post by ebscreen on October 16, 2025, 12:00:41 PM »
Both. It's understandable that they will want to sell more product, and don't want to support every old piece of hardware under the sun at each version.

What is not understandable though is that each new version is laughably worse than the previous, and now includes increasingly more paid advertising
in the OS itself. We bought touchscreen AIO's for the presses that came with 11 installed and after five minutes of not being able to access driver settings
I promptly ripped that pile of garbage out and installed 10 which in itself is a compromise. Windows peaked at 2000.

Use Linux wherever possible.
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General Discussion and ??? / Are we at the Mercy of Greed?
« Last post by 3Deep on October 16, 2025, 11:33:30 AM »
 So my win10 is no longer supported we already upgraded the office computers to win11 last year but I did not upgrade my art computer, fear that the upgrade would cause some of my favorite programs not to work so I enrolled in the carryover program for win10 upgrades which last until next year.  I know some upgrades are needed and thing's tend to move pretty fast but dang they just keep reaching in our pockets, my son told me last night that his cell phone is going to be EOL next year, so that tells me they are forcing us to upgrade whether we want to or not....so what do you think is it greed or necessity.
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Equipment / Re: Dual Heat Press
« Last post by whitewater on October 16, 2025, 09:44:46 AM »
I bought a MEM TQ40x50 directly from MEM for $940.00
I am not sure how your tarriffs and shipping works but it's a great press.
If you do order a press get extra platens, sleeve, square for small bags, etc.

We bought 2 of these, work great...

way more than what you paid Maxie..LOL
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