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Offline jsheridan

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Re: Time for a new dryer...
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2014, 03:24:50 PM »
Gas line is already in place ...

You have no idea how lucky you are!!

I sheet you not.. it took us 6 months and over 10k in fees to get our gas line installed.
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Offline jvanick

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Re: Time for a new dryer...
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2014, 03:44:02 PM »
Looks like $1250 for the Maxicure...

Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

Somebody want to talk me out of it?

I know I can't get into a gas dryer for that price ;)

Offline mk162

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Re: Time for a new dryer...
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2014, 03:56:25 PM »
sure, it will cost you more in the long run...but a lot.


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Re: Time for a new dryer...
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2014, 04:06:31 PM »
Looks like $1250 for the Maxicure...

Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

Somebody want to talk me out of it?

I know I can't get into a gas dryer for that price ;)
The maxicure was discontinued in 2004 and was first made in 1987. Not a really smart move to buy something we dont stock a lot of parts for anymore. Great dryer in its time but a energy hog by today's standards. Don't do it!
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Re: Time for a new dryer...
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2014, 04:07:44 PM »
IMO if your building for the future gas is gotta be your choice.  If your building for now then ya go that way. 
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Re: Time for a new dryer...
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2014, 04:28:56 PM »
ok, you guys talked me out of it.

plus...

thanks Paul over at Workhorse who pointed me in the right direction in at least bandaiding what I'm using at the moment, so I suppose I can wait for a while until the right deal comes along, or we move.

I definitely want to get a gas dryer when we move, and can support the length and width without getting into anything custom.

Thanks guys!

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Re: Time for a new dryer...
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2014, 04:34:07 PM »
Great advice from everyone about doing gas, have no doubt big saving down the line, but gas might not be for everyone.  Sounds like to me your letting your biz grow your equipment need which is smart if your trying to save a few pennies here and there until your biz say hey we can do it now.  This topic reminds of one I'd like to start and not derail this one.

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Re: Time for a new dryer...
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2014, 04:49:07 PM »
We're outpacing our old beater Mercury dryer, and the temperature control seems to be wonky... I replaced the old Athena control with an Omron digital unit, but that seems to have made matters worse... of course I might be running things wrong... anybody have any comments on that?  Maybe I should try maxing out the temperature on the control and just use the belt speed to adjust cure temps???   

Basically if we slow down or change production, we'll either get a shirt coming out undercured or scorched.  (temp gun and donut probe both confirm this too...  temperature will vary from 380 on the high end to 315 on the low end... and anywhere between... really frustrating.


Went through this process when I put in a new PID controller on an older lawson dryer and upgraded to solid state relays.

Under the settings of your controller there should be a PB value. If your dryer overshoots, then undershoots, you need to up the PB value. Try doubling it first and see if it levels out quicker and maintains when loaded with shirts.

Here's a PDF that talks about tuning PID controllers. It's kinda all jargon to me, but the graphs make sense and with a little (or a lot) of trial and error, you can get it tuned.

http://www.omega.com/temperature/Z/pdf/z115-117.pdf

I had the exact same problem with mine when I got it. They aren't calibrated for SLOW ir heating elements and need tuning to get them dialed in. Once I had the correct values put in it was a darn rock solid dryer and temp control. Load a bunch of shirts on the belt and it handled it like a champ. Replaced it with a circa 1989 precision vortex gas dryer lol.

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Re: Time for a new dryer...
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2014, 07:33:25 PM »
Gas is the way to go hands down. Make sure your incoming gas line is large enough.  We were very lucky to have a 1 1/4" pipe at our new space and it turns out we need it for the HO we are going to install.  The larger gas units are monsters, 390k btu.  We had to have the utility co. upgrade the meter, that's a lot of pull if running at full tilt.

That said, if you score a good electric dryer for cheap, you have a few years of high electric bills that you can eat before it becomes a bad decision.  You could do electric just for a year while you plan/save for gas.  Get your production up now and your gas dryer as soon as you can, best of both worlds in a sense.

We did this, I got a large electric unit for peanuts, tossed a few more peanuts into it and we had stupid high electric bills for the last couple years but total cost is still very low when you add it all up for the output it helped us achieve.  Not a long term solution of course and kind of wasteful but another way to look at it.  There are very good deals on electric dryers out there.  I think your problem with temp fluctuating is just endemic to panel heated electric dryers, without lots of forced air it just can't stay within 50 degrees.

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Re: Time for a new dryer...
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2014, 08:40:55 PM »
Yes on gas if you can, especially for WB.

Keep in mind however, we are at the mercy of the utility companies, and natural gas is at
historic lows right now. Tomorrow might bring something different.

Maxi-Cures are good solid dryers. Replacing the temp control on any dryer with a PID and solid
state relays is always a good idea. It's inexpensive and super reliable. Modern PID's have "learn" modes
that will learn how long it takes your heat source to react to changes. Holding within a few degrees, for the
panel temp (what most electric dryers measure) should not be a problem.


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Re: Time for a new dryer...
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2014, 08:43:21 PM »
as a former maxi-cure owner, I would never go back to one.  it was a great dryer for years, but in my opinion, it didn't age well.  it needed to be rewired totally and that was more work than we were willing to put into it.

i swear the lights on our street would dim when we turned it on.