New pricing calculator…

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Adding additional locations would make it look more complicated and they’d never use it so we decided not to include the additional locations. They just have to run it twice or double the cost of one side…

That looks like it would really skew the numbers unless a second pass would eliminate ALL the other selected items.  Don't see how "they'd never use it" since almost all jobs typically require more than one location, IMO.

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90% of our work is one side only!

[blue moon]

Adding additional locations would make it look more complicated and they’d never use it so we decided not to include the additional locations. They just have to run it twice or double the cost of one side…

That looks like it would really skew the numbers unless a second pass would eliminate ALL the other selected items.  Don't see how "they'd never use it" since almost all jobs typically require more than one location, IMO.

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I agree.

Also anyone that emphatically understands his pricing already would not even be using this calculator, this should be for the casual new customer shopping before wasting your time. I dont get it otherwise.

Customers that understand the pricing still have to look up the printing charge, add flashes, setups, sleeve charges and so on. This makes it easy to get the final numbers quickly. In some cases our customers are sitting in an office with their customer and can give a quote in seconds during the meeting rather than having to go back to the office and/or doing all the calculations manually.
This also helps us give a verbal quote when on the phone. It’s few seconds rather than adding things up manually.
Pierre

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problem we found is letting the customer dictate how many colors a design is. I have one local offset printer that asks me -every time- if white counts as a color on black shirts....

We run into this with underbase. Now it’s on by default. If they know what they are doing they can turn it off!
As far as color count, some of our customers actually do ok with it. Again, it’s contract so they work with it on regular bases. Those that don't know, send it over to our art department. I tried making a color counting app, but it did not really work out very well, so we are back to guesses or emails.
Pierre

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Adding additional locations would make it look more complicated and they’d never use it so we decided not to include the additional locations. They just have to run it twice or double the cost of one side…

Wet Blanket Time - Sorry

I just took another look at this and just how much more complicated would it be to make the following changes:

Combine "Underbase" and  "Number of Colors" into a Group Box with a Title of "Print Location 1" then Add a second Group Box with "Underbase: and "Number of Colors" and a Title of "Print Location 2".


And get rid of the Off-Center Print option as that, to me, is well, silly.  Not to mention that option could not handle 2 location print the way it's set up now.  Off-Center on Front? Back? Both?  Is that really a labor intensive item to charge .20 a shirt?  So you move the image over when you burn the screen.  Pffft.

This Calculator appears to be slanted towards a customer filling it in, NOT someone in the shop filling it in so I'm wondering if "Colors" to a Customer is subjective.  Is your average Customer knowledgeable about Gradients or Halftones to even move that slider (down below)?  And if not, based on the options of Quantity, Number of Colors (even as it is now for one location), and Gradients, how would it quote a price that includes the total number of screens (and inks) that can result from a Simulated Process?  Customer might "see" and mark 3 Colors where in fact a separation process produces 6 (or more). 

I get a couple of the "Additional options" but:
Color Changes?  Reading the description makes no sense to me.  Says color change during process.  Unless that's really trying to be a Screen Prep Charge I'd say that's a pretty rare event.
   
PMS/Pantone Match?  15.00 times how many colors?  How many of the colors require a Match?  All?  1, 2?

Water-based charge?  I get Discharge pricing, but Water-base to me is just an ink selection trade-off, no?   


I'd be okay with Fleece and Over seams/zippers as per shirt items.  Specialty,PMS Match,Foil,Water-base don't appear to have a way to price UNLESS the option is required for ALL colors (doubtful).  And no clue how you accurately price the Gradients option slide based on the Customer filling in for a quote.  Especially when a Simulated process is required.

Looks like a lot of time was focused on "Additional options" and not enough on basics.  Just my 2c.

Thanx for the feedback!
Most of this has been addressed above in the last few posts.
In contract word everything is time based. We charge certain amount to print the fronts and we know what that amounts to per hour. Moving the shirt to the side to print off center takes additional time and will net about 20% less per hour. It is not complicated, but it takes time. So we have to charge more. Same idea with waterbased printing. It is more demanding and nets less prints in the given time. We also charge flash fees on top of underbase as it also prints slower.
When pms match is selected, you can enter the number of colors. Many of our customers specify pms matches on ther orders and they would know to select the right number.
Color changes are when the same screen is used, but the color has to changed mid run. You are right, it’s not very often we do this, so that’s why it’s hidden by default.
Pierre