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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2011, 07:10:08 PM »
for what it is worth here are some interesting opportunities with almost any shape including yes dots.

http://www.vecteezy.com/blog/9-how-to-make-vector-halftone-gradients

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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2011, 09:15:31 PM »
Yes with photoshop you can load any graphic as the halftone. I think I actual used Dan Campbell's face as each dot on one of the old forums. so rather then just doing a graphic shape or gradient you can do halftones.
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2011, 09:07:56 AM »
for what it is worth here are some interesting opportunities with almost any shape including yes dots.

http://www.vecteezy.com/blog/9-how-to-make-vector-halftone-gradients

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very nice link, worth checking out. Thanx!
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2011, 12:35:53 PM »
Boy...you guys are really old.
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2011, 01:47:55 AM »
Boy...you guys are really old.

The alternative sucks.
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2011, 02:17:08 AM »
Boy...you guys are really old.

Would this be the pot calling the kettle black?
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2011, 01:16:03 PM »
Anybody here old enough to remember the term "Ben-Day dot"?
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2011, 02:01:21 PM »
Anybody here old enough to remember the term "Ben-Day dot"?

Yup. Kind of like the stuff you see in a Roy Lichtenstein painting . . . not halftones but tints.
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2011, 03:30:57 PM »
Yup! My first art job was at a phone directory company... very primitive 2-color printing. Ben-Day was the only kind of dot pattern they could do.

One salesman would specify in his orders "E-Tone Ben-Day." We made up a "Paul Simon/Ladysmith Black-Mambazo" - sounding song we'd sing every time one of us got one of those orders.
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2011, 03:44:32 PM »
Anybody here old enough to remember the term "Ben-Day dot"?

Yup. Kind of like the stuff you see in a Roy Lichtenstein painting . . . not halftones but tints.

A great example.

Does anyone else think that the old adhesive sheets of “halftone dots” cut into shapes for seps could be part of the problem with the generic (now) term “halftone?”

Long ago I remember having to cut out the adhesive sheets and placing them carefully on keyline drawings then overlaying more on the secondary mylar sheets and then making camera shots because the density of the adhesive sheets was pathetic. I remember some jobs taking all day to cut ruby and the adhesive sheets, I don’t even remember the name brand of the sheets anymore.

A job that would take 4 or more hours now takes about 3 min. in Illustrator.
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2011, 04:52:04 PM »
Anybody here old enough to remember the term "Ben-Day dot"?

Yup. Kind of like the stuff you see in a Roy Lichtenstein painting . . . not halftones but tints.

A great example.

Does anyone else think that the old adhesive sheets of “halftone dots” cut into shapes for seps could be part of the problem with the generic (now) term “halftone?”

Long ago I remember having to cut out the adhesive sheets and placing them carefully on keyline drawings then overlaying more on the secondary mylar sheets and then making camera shots because the density of the adhesive sheets was pathetic. I remember some jobs taking all day to cut ruby and the adhesive sheets, I don’t even remember the name brand of the sheets anymore.

A job that would take 4 or more hours now takes about 3 min. in Illustrator.

Cleaning out my office, I recently found some. Zipatone, Letraset, and Formatt were some of the brand names. I threw them away, but hung on to some of the Letraset type sheets for some reason.

They were spendy, brittle and yes, semi-translucent, so we'd make shots of them on adhesive-backed stat film. I remember getting fancy with rosettes when mixing colors.


A job that would take 3 min. in Illustrator now takes 30 seconds in Photoshop.  ;)
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2011, 04:54:43 PM »
Oh yeah, Chartpak was another.
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2011, 05:03:14 PM »
C-Thru and Formatt

btw, Command, Andy's went through thousands of sheets of 7279  55 line fades, often throwing away half of the remaining sheet.

Ask me how I know.

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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2011, 05:38:46 PM »
C-Thru and Formatt

btw, Command, Andy's went through thousands of sheets of 7279  55 line fades, often throwing away half of the remaining sheet.

Ask me how I know.

Is there such a thing as a packfrog?

Haha... you're a hoardy toad.

Time to let go.
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Re: Half Tone Dots are so Old School
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2011, 06:35:56 PM »
C-Thru and Formatt

btw, Command, Andy's went through thousands of sheets of 7279  55 line fades, often throwing away half of the remaining sheet.

Ask me how I know.

Is there such a thing as a packfrog?

Haha... you're a hoardy toad.

Time to let go.

but some of those letter packs are brand new and sealed. Another few years, and I'll make a killing on ebay!

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WTF? What now I asked?
"You can rent one of our computers and set your type the new way!" Computers? says I?

So, on the way to the "day job" at Andy's, at 7:00, I'd stop in at Kinko's at 5:30 or 6:00 when the clerk had a little time to show me how to "compute" and a lot of showing me where my stuff went when I moved the cursor too far. When he was busy with another customer, all I could think about were  the rental minutes ticking away. But type, and type set I did, then it was cut and paste to make camera copy.
So, I can honestly say that I started out as a Mac guy! lol!

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