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Roller Frames
« on: Yesterday at 10:09:56 AM »
I have heard recently that printers are moving away from using Roller Frames. Can anyone chime in on this?


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« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 11:15:14 AM »
we stopped remeshing our roller frames and have been switching to the Shur-Loc EZ frame system.  we still have some roller frames (maybe 60 or so?)  in circulation but they are getting sent to the recycler once they pop.

the shur loc system is faster for us to clean and remesh - but our roller frames were quite old and needed lots of maintenance every stretch.

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« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 01:03:08 PM »
I have heard recently that printers are moving away from using Roller Frames. Can anyone chime in on this?

I'd say that's been the case for the past couple of years.

Roller frames are amazing, but take a lot of time to properly clean and restretch, and most folks don't need the super high tension that they can offer.

Also, my two cents, roller frames and thin thread aren't a great match.
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« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 01:24:27 PM »
I have a bunch of shur loc and roller frames that I almost never use. They are too heavy. A majority of our work is 1 - 3 colors and pretty basic. Roller frames are overkill for our needs.
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Re: Roller Frames
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 03:24:20 PM »
we stopped remeshing our roller frames and have been switching to the Shur-Loc EZ frame system.  we still have some roller frames (maybe 60 or so?)  in circulation but they are getting sent to the recycler once they pop.

the shur loc system is faster for us to clean and remesh - but our roller frames were quite old and needed lots of maintenance every stretch.
We have about 200 shurlac we are looking to sell. Any interest?
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« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 03:28:04 PM »
I have heard recently that printers are moving away from using Roller Frames. Can anyone chime in on this?
Good statics (if you can get them) are the way to go. We are getting rid of our shurlocs and have not used neumanns in years.
The statics seem to last longer and a are about half price to remesh. We are going through about 100 screens per month so thats a savings of more than $2k!
GSF seems to be the only one that does a good job with stretching. They use epoxy for glue and are in mid 20’s after few jobs and stay there…
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Re: Roller Frames
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 04:10:44 PM »
we stopped remeshing our roller frames and have been switching to the Shur-Loc EZ frame system.  we still have some roller frames (maybe 60 or so?)  in circulation but they are getting sent to the recycler once they pop.

the shur loc system is faster for us to clean and remesh - but our roller frames were quite old and needed lots of maintenance every stretch.
We have about 200 shurlac we are looking to sell. Any interest?
pj

Hey hey,
first, real glad to see there' still some traffic here. Just sent you an email asking about the frames. hope all's well!
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Re: Roller Frames
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 06:22:20 PM »
Eco Frames here. Thin thread since forever. Cheaper to remesh than a static.
You can replace one instead of waiting to send a whole pallet.
Reusing the frames makes identifying them for usage data easier.
They settle to the same tension or a bit tighter than statics.

I am not a super high volume shop but I keep about 100 in rotation for one auto. Got a good deal and have like 70 sitting for the future.

I’m thinking you could custom sew some locking strips onto bolt mesh to make it tighter than factory specs. Or just to be cheaper.

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« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 06:40:39 PM »
Eco Frames here. Thin thread since forever. Cheaper to remesh than a static.
You can replace one instead of waiting to send a whole pallet.
Reusing the frames makes identifying them for usage data easier.
They settle to the same tension or a bit tighter than statics.

I am not a super high volume shop but I keep about 100 in rotation for one auto. Got a good deal and have like 70 sitting for the future.

I’m thinking you could custom sew some locking strips onto bolt mesh to make it tighter than factory specs. Or just to be cheaper.
The problem with the shurlocs is that the mesh is something like $40 or more. We have to ship from the other side of the country. Then we have to take apart and clean the frames, which is at least 20 min per frame. With labor and shipping, we are around $50 each to put into production. I can have statics redone and landed for about $25.
We have about 1500 screens, so just build a palette or two and send out 200 out at a time. Dont really care how long it takes as there’s plenty left behind.
So this works for us. If the eco frames are much easier to clean and mesh is cheaper, it could work.
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Re: Roller Frames
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 06:42:33 PM »
we stopped remeshing our roller frames and have been switching to the Shur-Loc EZ frame system.  we still have some roller frames (maybe 60 or so?)  in circulation but they are getting sent to the recycler once they pop.

the shur loc system is faster for us to clean and remesh - but our roller frames were quite old and needed lots of maintenance every stretch.
We have about 200 shurlac we are looking to sell. Any interest?
pj

Hey hey,
first, real glad to see there' still some traffic here. Just sent you an email asking about the frames. hope all's well!
-will
I think we talked about this and we have shurlocs which is not what you use. Do i remember that right? Will call you in few days just to catch up. Be back home later this week.
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Re: Roller Frames
« Reply #10 on: Today at 08:43:23 AM »
I might be interested in some Newman Rollers, 23x31 M3. No plastic corners though.
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